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Rwgarrison23 10-31-2019 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ol'George (Post 489972)
I'd not pull the head just yet.
If the gasket were leaking, they usually don't foul the plug.
Also you can see and hear it.
it will puff compression out in the leaking area.
Post some good pix of the old gasket, both sides, if you still have it.
I'd be more inclined to think either you have a fuel mixture problem or worn
bore/rings.
As Coop says usually a new gasket does not leak soon, and, if it didn't seal because of uneven surfaces, it will just push compression out, but not foul a plug.
I reread all your posts, didn't see where you checked the head properly for true
ness
Lets assume it is.
Put some regular gas in it as you sure as hell don't need hi octane with maybe 7 to 1 compression ratio on these old workhorses.
install a new plug.
start it and warm it up a few minutes, then open the throttle WFO(full speed)
and note where the main jet screw is set at, then slowly turn it in, (clockways)
till the engine falters like it is running out of fuel (it is) and take note where it is.
Then turn the needle back counterclockwise past where you originally started,continuing till it again falters running rich and emitting black smoke,
again noting where it is.
Right between those 2 places is real close to where the main jet should be set.
return engine to idle, and then set the low speed needle to where the engine sounds "happy"
now adjust the speed of the idle if need be
( the screw that keeps the butterfly open/ closed a bit)
(You can repeat this procedure if you feel the need to get it closer, but usually once gets it right)
Post your results.

Will do.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cooperino (Post 489961)
Look at posts 77,78,79,80.

You said you trued the head. Im trying to help you here but it seems your sort of chasing your tail. I know you say you dont have a youtube account but they are free to get. A video of it running probably would have solved a lot. These engines make a pretty distinct sound when they have a blown head gasket. If you did not actually true the head by resurfacing then yes you may have blown the new gasket. That usually does not happen in the first hour or 2 of running however. Especially since you seemed to indicate that yours was pretty flat.

I will create a account and figure out how to post it on here. Hopefully tonight.

Rwgarrison23 10-31-2019 12:20 PM

When I turn the crank shaft by hand and I can hear air whooshing out somewhere, is this normal?

cooperino 10-31-2019 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Rwgarrison23 (Post 489978)
When I turn the crank shaft by hand and I can hear air whooshing out somewhere, is this normal?

depends on where the air "compression" is coming from. It should come out exhaust

Except with ACR that should be minimal unless your spinning engine backwards

Rwgarrison23 10-31-2019 07:02 PM

So, I got 2 video uploaded to you tube but how do I insert it here?

cooperino 10-31-2019 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Rwgarrison23 (Post 489987)
So, I got 2 video uploaded to you tube but how do I insert it here?

Just post the links

Rwgarrison23 10-31-2019 08:10 PM

2 Attachment(s)
Took me a minute but I think I got it.

https://youtu.be/EGfT0agQ_cQ

https://youtu.be/zWbEweyXSsE

https://youtu.be/lZhD-S9dqPg

Also, here's the original head gasket i saved.

cooperino 10-31-2019 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Rwgarrison23 (Post 489991)
Took me a minute but I think I got it.

https://youtu.be/EGfT0agQ_cQ

https://youtu.be/zWbEweyXSsE

https://youtu.be/lZhD-S9dqPg

Also, here's the original head gasket i saved.

Okay... Try this. Turn key to crank, While cranking back off the key just a hair so that your not holding tight to the crank position. Let us know what happens

Rwgarrison23 10-31-2019 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by cooperino (Post 489996)
Okay... Try this. Turn key to crank, While cranking back off the key just a hair so that your not holding tight to the crank position. Let us know what happens

I'll have to try it tomorrow. Interesting, any reason for this? New key switch and all new wiring harness as well as voltage regulator.

cooperino 11-01-2019 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Rwgarrison23 (Post 489997)
I'll have to try it tomorrow. Interesting, any reason for this? New key switch and all new wiring harness as well as voltage regulator.

Ok. I didnt know you had new key switch. Sometimes when switches start to wear out they will start when the key is held back a degree or so off crank

Rwgarrison23 11-01-2019 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by cooperino (Post 490000)
Ok. I didnt know you had new key switch. Sometimes when switches start to wear out they will start when the key is held back a degree or so off crank

Yeah, all electrical items been replaced pretty much. So, based on video, what do you think?


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