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jeffmayes 02-09-2014 06:09 PM

By the way, what is an LT?

EricR 02-09-2014 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffmayes (Post 242365)
By the way, what is an LT?

Lawn Tractor!!!

Cubcrazy 02-09-2014 06:18 PM

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This is what you need.

Cubcrazy 02-09-2014 06:19 PM

Sorry Jeff. LT stands for lawn tractor and your 1440 is a garden tractor.

Sam Mac 02-09-2014 06:28 PM

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OK Jeff you have the wrong plow setup for that tractor as the others have said. I need to see what the axle tube mounts look like. It has 2 bolts that go through the frame on each side. As long as the bolts are not broken off you will be able to fix it easy but looking at the broken adapter brackets I'm concerned. The good news is that the aluminum adapter that the pump mounts to is in one piece. This pic is from a Super but the bolts I want you to look at are to two at the top to the right in this pic, they are the same on all of the aluminum rears.

Sam Mac 02-09-2014 07:34 PM

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A little more info about the area you need to check. The first pic shows where the bolts go through the frame. The second pic shows the top of the axle tube. I have seen the tube broken in this area if the mounts that are broken on your tractor let go. Look at the areas circled in red and try to get me pics.

The plow that you have would have not caused a problem. What happens is that most of 1440's -1864's have Hydro Gear pumps. The Hydro gear pumps do not have the springs on the trunnion like the Sundstrands do. Because of this if you slam it from forward to reverse and reverse to forward it's like popping the clutch on a gear drive. This causes the bolts to loosen and eventually they will fall out or break off and at worst they bust the axle tubes. The 1863 that I turned into 1641 had broken bolts and I had to pull the axle tubes off it to get the broken bolts out, major PITA job.

Shaner 02-09-2014 08:23 PM

From the looks of it, all that's broken is the metal clips to hold the tranny...not the trans itself which is GOOD!!! The correct blade would put pressure on the front qa points and the rock shaft...the transaxle shouldn't be load bearing like it is with that wrong style blade

Sam Mac 02-09-2014 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaner (Post 242447)
From the looks of it, all that's broken is the metal clips to hold the tranny...not the trans itself which is GOOD!!! The correct blade would put pressure on the front qa points and the rock shaft...the transaxle shouldn't be load bearing like it is with that wrong style blade

I wouldn't bet on that, in order to have that much space between the broken parts the mounts at the back had to twist a lot. I will be very surprised if he doesn't have broken bolts or a broken axle tube where the bolts go through the frame into the tubes. I hope he got lucky.

Cubcrazy 02-10-2014 06:11 AM

I'm with you Sam. I won't be surprised there are some bolts snapped off. Having the proper blade setup is hard enough on the rears with all the ramming going on let alone having the incorrect setup on top of that. Hopefully Jeff can get some pics.

Sam Mac 02-10-2014 07:41 AM

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I'm with you Sam. I won't be surprised there are some bolts snapped off. Having the proper blade setup is hard enough on the rears with all the ramming going on let alone having the incorrect setup on top of that. Hopefully Jeff can get some pics.

Mike

I doubt that the plow is what caused this problem. I've seen the same failure on 1641's 1863's etc. This came out of an 1863 that was only used to mow. The Hydro Gears can be very abrupt when changing directions, because of this they are prone to this sort of problem. Just my 2 cents but I think they are as bad or worse than the Supers when it comes to problems with the trans mounts. Ask me why I have rear end braces on both of my 1641's. :biggrin2:


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