I disclose as much as I know about the tractor to the customer, that way I enter and leave the deal with "clean hands" (and a clean conscious). It's the Golden Rule! For a tractor, I give the customer a warranty, even on old IH cub cadet. I state to them that they have 6 months if a stranger or 1 year if I know them. They can bring it back and get a complete refund or I can fix whatever is wrong with it, at my discretion. The buyer must use proper maintenance, though. (S)He cannot run it without oil or drive it through a river, etc. In the last 10 years, I have only had 1 come back to me and the purchaser, my nephew, got a full refund of his purchase price. Not worth losing a friend over a couple hundred bucks.

I've had a sponsor on this forum sell me the incorrect part. At first I was upset, but just made it work and went about my way. Let your conscious be your guide...

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I don't even think this question is up for debate.

I think that the seller has the absolute responsibility to disclose every known issue. I sold a JD 110 a month ago and dang near talked him out of buying it because I was going through every minute detail of what was wrong with it. I even told him that two of the lug bolts did not have the original "JD" stamped on them. He seemed to be a collector, so I wanted him to know everything.

As stated already in this thread, honesty is the golden rule of doing business.

I too always go out of my way to disclose any issues.

Is the leaking seal the only issue you have with the tractor? Has it leaked since the day you got it?

Tim I did not use the tractor the first summer I had it. I started using this past fall when my Z turn was down. So far I have had to rebuild the carb, replace the plug behind the ignition switch, replace one front tire. Now I have the oil leak from the pics you can see it did not just start leaking. Also this past weekend the bolts on the seat fell out as well as the bolts on the bracket that holds the hydro to the frame. The pump was moving up and down a full inch. I have since tightened everything up.

Let me see if I have this story straight Charles you bought a tractor that is at least 29 years old, the last 2072 was built in 1989 according to the info I have. You bought this tractor in 2016 and now your upset with the seller because it has an oil leak, seriously? I think you are being totally unreasonable. :biggrin2:

Sam you misunderstood my point totally. I am not upset at all. I only listed the problems I had because Tim asked. I certainly expect issues with a tractor this old. From looking at the motor under the shroud it seems to me that it had been leaking for a long time ( more than When I had it )as I said I really have not used it until recently. Thus my original question do you disclose or not. The member I bought it from stated in another thread that it was not leaking when he sold it to me. At this point I have no reason not to believe him. Sam no anger here at all except maybe at my self since physically I am unable to fix the darn thing myself right now.

You've been talking about selling the super's, if i were you and i couldn't do the repair myself i would sell it off to someone else, I might even be interested.

With the tractors that I have sold, I have been completely honest with any issues that I knew of. I do make it a point to tell any buyers to check the machine over throughly themselves. Opinions can differ greatly on what's good condition and what's not. I personally like tractors that are listed as "restored" with a brushed on paint job and nothing done mechanically as an example. The buyers are welcome to run it, drive it around, even mow with it if they want too. I will even offer to jack it up if they want to get a good look underneath. I am very clear before they buy, it is being sold as is. When it goes down the road, it's down the road and it's not coming back.

What he said, times 300 down the road.