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Gravel Road 08-01-2018 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by john hall (Post 462346)
Looks to be an interesting project. Hydraulic hoses might be cheaper than you think. I'm not certain but I believe it has a fairly low pressure hydraulic system (someone here should know for certain). Call around a couple shops and see what lower pressure hoses are going for. Our Deere dealer makes about any kind of hose you could need, so does a nearby Oreileys and a lawnmower repair shop.

Thanks for the points, and I bet the hydraulic shop will know at a glance what they are and what is needed.

J-Mech 08-01-2018 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Gravel Road (Post 462353)
I may just do that. The head is going to get pulled again anyway for a new head gasket and painting the brackets. For now, I need to be able to run it enough to check out the hydrostat after it gets an oil change.

The hydro will be fine. Use a Cub Cadet filter, or a Wix 51410, or Napa 1410. Those are the 3 correct filters.

Make sure to plane the head before permanent installation.

John is right, the hoses really only need to be single or double braid, but hoses are pretty cheap. If you need a new pump, that's where the expense will be. Or if the cylinders leak, which is likely.

cooperino 08-01-2018 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by J-Mech (Post 462358)
The hydro will be fine. Use a Cub Cadet filter, or a Wix 51410, or Napa 1410. Those are the 3 correct filters.

Make sure to plane the head before permanent installation.

John is right, the hoses really only need to be single or double braid, but hoses are pretty cheap. If you need a new pump, that's where the expense will be. Or if the cylinders leak, which is likely.

Single "braid" which is considered one wire it is for suction only. 2 wire would be for pressure up to 3400 PSI. Both hoses are available from 3/16 to 2". You could use 2 wire hose for both suction and pressure lines but 1 wire is cheaper and fine for the suction side. Figure out what ends you need and check out this site. Local hydraulic shops make most of their money on hose assemblies and tend to over charge .

https://www.discounthydraulichose.co...blies_s/74.htm

finsruskw 08-01-2018 08:14 PM

Curious as to the make and model of the loader.
Hose may be cheap but the fittings are not.
I wound up with close to $350 for complete setup new hose and all new fittings for my 2149 DanCo.

cooperino 08-01-2018 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by finsruskw (Post 462366)
Curious as to the make and model of the loader.
Hose may be cheap but the fittings are not.
I wound up with close to $350 for complete setup new hose and all new fittings for my 2149 DanCo.

Check out the link I posted. I have saved thousands upon thousands by using them. Most of what will be needed for that loader will be female #4 and #6 JIC fittings. Thats about the cheapest fittings out there. Nothing crazy on that set up.

J-Mech 08-01-2018 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by finsruskw (Post 462366)
I wound up with close to $350 for complete setup new hose and all new fittings for my 2149 DanCo.

That seems excessive for no more than it is. Where did you get them made?


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Originally Posted by cooperino (Post 462367)
CMost of what will be needed for that loader will be female #4 and #6 JIC fittings.

Really. So you have one, or have rebuilt one?

J-Mech 08-01-2018 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by cooperino (Post 462364)
Single "braid" which is considered one wire it is for suction only.

I'm not talking about suction hose. It's not "braided". I'm talking about single wire braid hose. It's good for up to 3000 PSI.

Like this:
https://www.amazon.com/Aeroquip-FC30...gle+Wire+Braid


Once again, you think I have no idea what I'm talking about. :bash2:

cooperino 08-01-2018 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by J-Mech (Post 462372)
That seems excessive for no more than it is. Where did you get them made?




Really. So you have one, or have rebuilt one?

No, Not that model danco anyway. But have had and or replaced hoses on other very similar models. Looks like the danco has 90 degree MPT to #6 JIC females on the cylinders. So the hoses would be male on that not female as I said earlier. But that will only make the assemblies even cheaper... This aint rocket science.

cooperino 08-01-2018 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by J-Mech (Post 462374)
I'm not talking about suction hose. It's not "braided". I'm talking about single wire braid hose. It's good for up to 3000 PSI.

Like this:
https://www.amazon.com/Aeroquip-FC30...gle+Wire+Braid


Once again, you think I have no idea what I'm talking about. :bash2:

Jon. I did not say or even elude to you being wrong.. Relax man..

J-Mech 08-01-2018 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by cooperino (Post 462376)
No, Not that model danco anyway. But have had and or replaced hoses on other very similar models. Looks like the danco has 90 degree MPT to #6 JIC females on the cylinders. So the hoses would be male on that not female as I said earlier. But that will only make the assemblies even cheaper... This aint rocket science.

Hydraulics may not be "rocket science" to you and me, but it seems to be for most people. They really struggle with it.

Most of the actual fittings on the loader are NPT, with an adapter.... maybe. Some used all NPT fittings. A lot of the pumps use o-ring, so you may end up with several different types of hose fittings, or using an adapter. No, it's not rocket science, but if you don't know what types of fittings are available, where to get them, how to adapt, have pressure knowledge and all that..... yeah. Hydraulic shop will just "assume" that your working on a Cat loader and sell you the best thing they have. Seen this on here many, many, many times.


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