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ol'George 04-15-2020 06:56 AM

Another cover that has not seen the light of day since it left the factory.
:beerchug:

Billy-O 04-15-2020 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ol'George (Post 494966)
Another cover that has not seen the light of day since it left the factory.
:beerchug:

Taking a look where the sun doesn't shine:biggrin2:

finsruskw 04-15-2020 09:36 AM

That gunk coating the inside of the gearcase and cover is the result of the Hy-Tran doing it's job encapsulating the moisture. That's the treason for using it in the 1st place

\Make sure you get it all out, don't want a lump of that crap getting sucked into your new filter.

BTW, you did get the correct filter or equivalent to a Cub Cadet 723-3014 I hope???

fried 04-15-2020 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by mortten (Post 494961)
Watch putting the cover back on. The bottom 3 bolts are longer. You can crack the housing putting the longer ones on top.

I did notice that those three were longer. Has anyone had problems with those three bolts holding up when using a plow on a sleeve hitch?

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Originally Posted by finsruskw (Post 494972)
That gunk coating the inside of the gearcase and cover is the result of the Hy-Tran doing it's job encapsulating the moisture. That's the treason for using it in the 1st place

\Make sure you get it all out, don't want a lump of that crap getting sucked into your new filter.

BTW, you did get the correct filter or equivalent to a Cub Cadet 723-3014 I hope???

I plan on using a toothbrush or nylon scrub brush to scrub the solids with Solvent, Kerosene, or Diesel to help loosen it up.

The filter I ordered was WIX 51410. It says that it's a hydraulic filter. If this won't work, let me know so I can order the right one.


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Originally Posted by ol'George (Post 494966)
Another cover that has not seen the light of day since it left the factory.
:beerchug:

Bringing light to where the sun don't shine! :beerchug:

fried 04-15-2020 09:20 PM

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I was able to get all of the sludge cleaned out today. I used a wire brush, some PSC1000 and brake parts cleaner. Now I'm waiting on gasket/filter/hytran.

mortten 04-16-2020 09:35 AM

There is a debate on the 51410 filter. The Cub part number crosses to that number. But if you look up on the Wix website it lists a 51084. The filters are the same except the 51084 has an anti drain valve. So the question would be does the Cub filter have an anti drain valve in it? If it does it hen the 51084 would be correct. If it doesn’t then the 51410 would be correct. I don’t know the answer. If it were me I’d go with application rather than crossover.

fried 04-16-2020 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by mortten (Post 495011)
There is a debate on the 51410 filter. The Cub part number crosses to that number. But if you look up on the Wix website it lists a 51084. The filters are the same except the 51084 has an anti drain valve. So the question would be does the Cub filter have an anti drain valve in it? If it does it hen the 51084 would be correct. If it doesn’t then the 51410 would be correct. I don’t know the answer. If it were me I’d go with application rather than crossover.

I would like to hear more about the debate on the filters. I remember reading somewhere that you want to use a filter without the anti drainback valve for full flowing hydraulics but I can't remember where I read it. I pulled the information on this snip image directly from the Wix website to compare the two filters.

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mortten 04-16-2020 11:08 AM

My understanding of the anti-drain back valve is that when a filter is positioned is a position other than vertical it prevents the filter from draining and causing a dry startup. The filter on the Cub is horizontal and without actually measuring, it appears the top level of the reservoir is slightly below mid level of the filter.

fried 04-17-2020 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by mortten (Post 495020)
My understanding of the anti-drain back valve is that when a filter is positioned is a position other than vertical it prevents the filter from draining and causing a dry startup. The filter on the Cub is horizontal and without actually measuring, it appears the top level of the reservoir is slightly below mid level of the filter.

Ok. With that on the table i'm going to continue with my initial hydraulic filter I selected.



Got the filter installed last night. My rear end gasket should arrive today then I can button everything up. I was planning on doing the first test drive today but the stripped out spark plug hole had other plans for me. I'm waiting on a ebay pull off head to come in also.

R Bedell 04-17-2020 09:24 AM

The Wix 51410 is the correct replacement for the Cub Cadet filter.


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