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Sam Mac 02-06-2012 06:14 PM

Had to give up on the dash pod idea for the gages, they would have ended up sticking out about 4" from the dash in order for the line that goes to the oil press gage to not end up getting kinked. Made a dash out of some 1/4" lexan I had from my racecar winshield and took the hole saw to the dash think it's going to end up looking cool anyway. May cover the lexan with some carbon vinal.

Sam Mac 02-07-2012 06:09 PM

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Got the engine removed from the 2284 today. Cleaned it up and took the blower housing off. Who ever worked on this made a mess out of it. Bunch of broken bolts, missing bolts, wiring is a mess, no wonder it wouldn't run like it should. Got the engine ready to remove from the 1882 and ordered two new CH22's for them. The orange hoist make life easy. :biggrin2:

PaulS 02-07-2012 06:23 PM

Looks like good progress. Nice hoist too.

Methos 02-07-2012 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 114864)
Looks like good progress. Nice hoist too.

Agree and I've got a yellow hoist that I use.:biggrin2: Colors don't matter when it's a FEL!:biggrin2:

ACecil 02-07-2012 10:17 PM

You've been busy! Thanks for the pics, Sam!

Dave01 02-07-2012 11:22 PM

Sam, are you buying CH22's at $1,500 or so each, or do you have a lower priced source for them?

Sam Mac 02-08-2012 06:02 AM

Dave

This is what's going in the Cubs
http://www.smallenginewarehouse.com/...11&desc=Kohler Engine 22hp Horizontal 1"x2-3/4" Shaft, Command, Electric Start, OHV, CIS, fits Cub Cadet

I'll post some pics later of the mess the PO made of the other engine. I'll fix it at some point in the future and find something to put it in. Don't know if the Mag 18 is worth saving but even with no gov and a hole in the block it runs pretty good. Fired it up yesterday, unloaded it from my trailer then drove it about 1000' to the area that I have my pressure washer set up. Gave it a bath started it up again and drove it to the garage.:bigthink:

Sam Mac 02-09-2012 06:09 PM

Got the Mag 18 out of the 1882 today. Used the motor plate from the 2284 as a guide to drill the bolt holes in the motor plate from the 1882 so that I don't have to replace it. Simple job just put the 2284 plate on top of the 1882 plate and ran a couple bolts into the holes on the side that have the nuts welded on where they bolt to the tractor frame. Need to cut off about an inch and a half of the plate in the front on the 1882 plate. Gonna go see my welder friend tomorrow so he can cut it with his plasma cutter, I'm too lazy to do it with a sawzall. New engines should be delivered tomorrow. That's about it for today. Time for a cold one.:beerchug:

Methos 02-10-2012 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Sam Mac (Post 115206)
Got the Mag 18 out of the 1882 today. Used the motor plate from the 2284 as a guide to drill the bolt holes in the motor plate from the 1882 so that I don't have to replace it. Simple job just put the 2284 plate on top of the 1882 plate and ran a couple bolts into the holes on the side that have the nuts welded on where they bolt to the tractor frame. Need to cut off about an inch and a half of the plate in the front on the 1882 plate. Gonna go see my welder friend tomorrow so he can cut it with his plasma cutter, I'm too lazy to do it with a sawzall. New engines should be delivered tomorrow. That's about it for today. Time for a cold one.:beerchug:

Some good progress! I bet your pumped up for the engines coming today!

Dave01 02-10-2012 09:24 AM

Do you think a Command 22 HP burns about the same amount of fuel as a Mag 18? I'd guess so but not sure. I do think 22 HP is about perfect for these tractors if you plan to run a 54" or 60" deck.

Sam Mac 02-10-2012 10:58 AM

Dave

My guess is that the Command is probably a little better on fuel than a Mag18 just because of the combustion chamber design. OHV vs. flat head. Not enough to justify replacing a good engine but when you have a Mag 18 with a hole in the block and your looking at more than double to put a new M18 in vs. a new CH22 it's a no brainer. The 1882 should be pretty much plug and play biggest issue that I see is it will need a longer drive shaft. I can just get one for a 2284 or make up a spacer to go between the engine and the CV joint. Only other issue looks like I’ll have to fab up a tail pipe for the muffler. Also not a big deal, Jegs has U bend exhaust tube in the correct size so it’s just a cut, fit weld deal. Motor base plate is all cut and drilled for the CH22 bolt pattern. Just waiting now for Fed Ex to show up.

Sam Mac 02-10-2012 06:44 PM

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The Fed Ex guy brought some new things for me to play with today, kind of like Christmas. Got the new Kohlers and a carb for the engine on my pressure washer. Fixed the washer and put it to use with the help of the Orange tractor. Makes it easy to get underneath nice and clean. Did a little test fitting. Unfortunately the muffler I bought for the conversion sits too high and hits the hood so it looks like I’m going to have to get a new Cub muffler unless I can find a good used one. All in all it was a Super day.:biggrin2:

ACecil 02-10-2012 07:02 PM

Great pics, Sam! You have some beautiful property!

Methos 02-11-2012 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ACecil (Post 115383)
Great pics, Sam! You have some beautiful property!

Well said and don't you love having a FEL around to help you with the heavy lifting.:beerchug:

Sam Mac 02-11-2012 12:49 PM

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Duke

For way too many years I did it the hard way. An FEL is a life and back saver. My favorite FEL's are also yellow just a bit bigger.:biggrin2:

ACecil 02-11-2012 11:24 PM

Now that's a piece of equipment!

PaulS 02-12-2012 07:30 PM

Wow that is what I call a super duper scooper.

Sam Mac 02-15-2012 05:44 PM

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Made some progress today on the 1882. The new CH22 is in and it fired right up. Big thanks to Roland for the wiring diagram. Had to shorten the battery support 3/4" to clear the air cleaner. Put the drive shaft from the 2284 in it to make sure I had the measurements correct, it fit perfectly. Tomorrow if everything goes as planned I'll get some new battery cables and tidy up some odds & ends and take it for a test ride. Question for you guys, would it now be considered a 2282 or a 2284?

Frank1541 02-15-2012 06:26 PM

Sam,

I am thinking of doing the same swap on a 1541. You said you had to cut the battery tray to make it fit. When you talk about the battery tray do you mean the horizontal sheet metal that the battery gets bolted on to? I am wondering why since all the cyclops tractors use the same battery tray? So there should be no modification needed unless they changed the air cleaner? Did you use the mounting plate from your old tractor or one from a cyclops with a Command engine? Could you take a picture from the side focusing on that area.

Thanks for sharing your pioneering work on this.

EricR 02-15-2012 06:42 PM

Sam, I vote for the 2282, just my :TwoCents:.

Sam Mac 02-15-2012 07:44 PM

Frank

I used the motor plate from the 1882 but I drilled the new bolt pattern in it by bolting the plate from the 2284 to it to make sure the engine ended up in the proper location. The battery tray will hold the fire wall tight against the air cleaner. I could have left it alone but I wanted just a little clearance. It's the same with the 2284. I'm going to trim that one also. It makes a nice swap going from the Mag 18. Wiring is basicly the same except you need to lengthen it. The drive shaft need's to be replaced with a longer one. Muffler is EXPENSIVE and a Cub only or used parts deal ( I'm waiting to see if Rich at Patton Acres can get me one) upper heat shield is NLA so that's also on my Patton list. I'll get some closeup pics tomorrow. Throttle cable will work but you'll need a new choke cable. I also replaced all the fuel line, cleaned and greased the steering CV joint, cleaned every electrical connection etc, while I had it all apart.:beerchug:

Frank1541 02-15-2012 11:37 PM

Sam,

Thanks, I thought the firewall would be tight from the parts I have so far. I now have everything but the motor and some small parts. I will wait until the new motor is in then lengthen the drive shaft. I am waiting for warmer weather and the final OK from the boss. I looked at the Kohler muffler option as well. I could not see how to make it work.

Sam Mac 02-16-2012 06:38 AM

Frank

Is your 1541 drive shaft the early style with the rag joint or the late style with the CV joints? If you have the late style shaft it would probably be better to just buy a shaft for an 1864(pretty sure the 1864 is the same as the 1541 but with the CH18). I thought about stretching the 1882 shaft but I'm concerned about it being straight and balanced so I bought a new one for a 2284. An out of balance shaft turning 3600 RPM's will do bad things in a hurry.

Frank1541 02-16-2012 08:35 AM

Sam,

I am not sure the 1864 shaft will work. From what I have seen MTD may have changed the hydro mounting. This may have changed the rear location of the shaft. I am hoping it is as easy as using an 1864 shaft. We'll see when I get the new engine in. I have the new style shaft.

Sam Mac 02-16-2012 04:31 PM

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Well the 1882 rolled out of the garage under it's own power this afternoon. So far everything works as it's supposed to. Looks a little ugly at the moment. Now for some paint on the tin work and still need to put the PTO on. Frank you'll see what I mean about the clearance with the battery tray. Although the part numbers are the same the one on the 2284 is different from the 1882.:beerchug:

ACecil 02-16-2012 04:45 PM

That's great, Sam! Thanks for the pics.

Methos 02-16-2012 05:47 PM

Sam it looks nekkid like that!:biggrin2: Great news that it's running on it's own power again.:beerchug:

PaulS 02-16-2012 06:04 PM

That looks very much like my 2084. Not much room. Although my battery sits in the battery box a little different than yours. Yours is lengthwise and mine is sidewise and areal bugger to remove and insert.

Dave01 02-16-2012 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 116622)
That looks very much like my 2084. Not much room. Although my battery sits in the battery box a little different than yours. Yours is lengthwise and mine is sidewise and areal bugger to remove and insert.

My 2084 and 1864 as well, the battery is sideways, makes sense as it leaves more room. What was the reason for the lenthwise mount?

Sam Mac 02-16-2012 07:58 PM

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Dave & Paul

That's the way Cub has it mounted in both the 1882 & 2284. Yep lots of fun to get in and out. Gotta pull the air cleaner and the fire wall the way it is. Thought maybe I had it wrong so I looked it up on the Cub parts site and it's the way it is supposed to go.

Just picked up a 2185 organ donar, engine, trans and maybe PTO are good the rest is scrap metal. :beerchug:

Sam Mac 02-17-2012 02:10 PM

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Three of the four kids taking a nap. The fourth is undergoing a heart transplant and should join it's buddys shortly. :biggrin2:

_DX3_ 02-17-2012 03:13 PM

:biggrin2: I love the police line up. LOL. Just kidding, but I do like the setting and all that good looking yellow and white. :beerchug:

ACecil 02-17-2012 04:34 PM

Great looking fleet!

Methos 02-17-2012 05:25 PM

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Great looking fleet!

I agree!:beer2:

ihnick 02-18-2012 01:21 AM

that 1210 or whatever it is on the left looks like a little toy compared to those supers!

Sam Mac 02-18-2012 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by ihnick (Post 116918)
that 1210 or whatever it is on the left looks like a little toy compared to those supers!

Nick

The 1210 is now a 1640 and if you think it looks small in the pic you should see it up close. Used to think it was pretty big till I got the first Super. :biggrin2:

cub123 02-18-2012 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Sam Mac (Post 116925)
Nick

The 1210 is now a 1640 and if you think it looks small in the pic you should see it up close. Used to think it was pretty big till I got the first Super. :biggrin2:

Looking good Sam! I'm glad I sold the 1882 back to you, your doing a great job on it:beerchug:

I know what you mean about other cubs seeming small, I got the 123 out yesterday and it kinda felt like a toy after running the 982:biggrin2:

Dave01 02-18-2012 09:52 AM

The bigger tires on the supers make the biggest difference in looks, give the tractor a higher, wider looking stance. The extra length of the super is also a factor but not as noticable, when I see pics I sometimes have to look for the turning brakes and tires to make sure a certain tractor is a super.

Sam, you do great work!

Sam Mac 02-20-2012 06:11 PM

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Got a couple little issues resolved today. Replaced the fuel line and tank bungs in the 2284 and fixed an intermittent skip in the 2182. Think the PO got all the good out of this spark plug LOL:bigthink:

PaulS 02-20-2012 06:33 PM

That is one totally used up plug. Definately time to change it out.


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