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Sam Mac 01-17-2012 12:44 PM

A Super Day
 
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These two just followed me home. A 2284 and a 2182 Plastic for the 2182 is in the back of the truck. Both only need some minor TLC. :beerchug:

Cubcrazy 01-17-2012 01:07 PM

Nice score on the supers!:beerchug:

cubs-n-bxrs 01-17-2012 01:10 PM

Nice haul on the supers. I have a hard enough time finding one and your pulling them in 2 at a time. SWEEEET

Dave01 01-17-2012 03:30 PM

Nice looking pair of tractors! What is the engine in a 2182? Looks like a 60" deck on the 2284, what's on the 2182?

Sam Mac 01-17-2012 04:03 PM

The 2182 has a 3 cyl Kubota gas engine. Both tractors have 60" decks. One of them will be for sale after I service them.

ACecil 01-17-2012 04:58 PM

Awesome finds on your supers!

Methos 01-17-2012 05:49 PM

Super Sweet Score!

weaverama 01-17-2012 05:55 PM

That sloped hood on the Cyclops is starting to look good. They're kind of mean looking. What is happening to me?

Weaverama

Dave01 01-17-2012 06:03 PM

My favorite series from a capability and control layout standpoint.

PaulS 01-18-2012 05:08 PM

NICE !!!! Good thing you got two as these biggies are quite addictive I now have two also. Either we have risen to the heights or sank to a new lower level. Not sure which.

Diz Jr. 01-18-2012 07:00 PM

Nice find on the Cubs, Nice trailer also :ThumbsUp:

Sugarmaker 01-18-2012 10:28 PM

Very nice tractors! Yes I like the trailer too!
Regards,
Chris

TSWolf 01-19-2012 07:54 PM

Nice cubs and trailer, now if you could just get an American truck in front of them.:D

Sam Mac 01-20-2012 07:08 AM

The trailer works out very nicely. As far as having an American truck to tow it that’s not going to happen. I’ve owned enough Chevy, Dodge and Ford trucks over the years and after the problems I had with my last Dodge Dakota I finally gave up and went Jap. It has 70,000 miles on it and all I’ve had to do is routine service. If I could buy an American truck of the same size, capability and quality I would but in this size it’s the Toyota Tacoma or the Dodge Dakota.

nikster 01-20-2012 08:12 AM

Don't ya just hate that. 1 following you home is one thing, but 2?:beerchug:

Nik,:

I have a friend that has a landscaping/plow service for over 25 years. he's done buying American trucks. In the last 5 years he's replaced his service trucks with Toyota & couldn't be happier.

jbollis 01-20-2012 08:38 AM

I am with you on that Sam. I was a die hard Chevy man for years. Then they quite making trucks. When I say quite making trucks, I mean a real trucks should not have anything but a solid axle in the front on a 4x4 period. If you use them like we do, then you will understand. If all you do is drive them around like a 4x4 car and tow a small trailer 5-6 times a year ,then you won't understand.

So I went to Dodge. I like them. built nice and solid if you get the 3/4 or 1 tons. I do some deliveries on the side for a local equipment rental business that a friend owns. I will tell you that I pull single loads that weigh more then most people pull all year combined. I also have no problem putting 4500-5000 pounds in the bed and taking it wherever it has to go. I have hauled 20-25 square of new shingles numerous times in the bed. I haven't done anything but brakes and rear shocks in The ten years I have owned my 2002 Dodge.

But, my wife likes Nissans. She has had an Armada for about 3 years now and I kinda like it. She had an Altima SE-R before that . that was a fun car to drive. Make the Mustang boys go crawling home with there tail between there legs. Never had any problem with either of them. When we traded the Altima for the Armada they gave us real good money for trade.

So ,it depends on what you need a truck for as to what would be the best for you in the long run. If you need a heavy truck to pull/haul big loads then I would say Dodge all the way. just stay away from the dakota's and 1/2 tons. If all you need is a 4x4 car that you can put a cap/tonneau Cover and hitch on, so you can pull a 2000-3000 pound trailer around with, then go foreign.

The majority of people that have trucks don't use them as trucks , they use them as cars.

Sam Mac 01-20-2012 10:39 AM

Biggest issue I had with the Dodge was electrical. The last Ford I had never gave my any problems but it loved gas. If I did need a larger truck the way things are today I probably buy a Ford just because I’m P.O.d over the bail out deal. Enough of my rant.

cub123 01-20-2012 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Sam Mac (Post 111470)
Biggest issue I had with the Dodge was electrical. The last Ford I had never gave my any problems but it loved gas. If I did need a larger truck the way things are today I probably buy a Ford just because I’m P.O.d over the bail out deal. Enough of my rant.

Yeah, I would go with a ford that burns diesel:biggrin2:

TSWolf 01-20-2012 11:39 AM

As far as American trucks go for me, my 1995 Chevy K1500 does anything I ask it to, from hauling firewood and cubs to pulling a trailer loaded with ford tractors, cubs, firewood, or gravel. My Dad has a 1998 Dodge Dakota that he has had very few problems with, and has no problem with having a Cub in the bed and a Ford tractor on the trailer behind it. Thats about 400 pounds in the bed and 3600 pounds behind it, with no trailer brakes. My Dad was a US Marine, so it is kind of a rule that we buy American.:American Flag 1:

Sam Mac 01-24-2012 06:43 PM

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Got some time the last couple days to work on the two Supers I picked up last week. Both got a bath. The 2182 is going to get re-wired. Lot’s of fun, I had to move the engine and radiator forward to make enough room to get at the wiring.
Replaced the fuel line along with the rubber grommets that seal the fuel shut off’s on the bottom of the take. Gotta love ethanol. So far I don’t see any serious problems. Looks like all the 2284 needs is a good tune-up, oil and filters and a good polishing. Decks could use a little paint but otherwise they are nice.
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Oak 01-24-2012 07:59 PM

Good lookin supers Sam. That Kubota looks awesome and the side panels look great. Mine are busted up, wiring is a complete mess and I think there is more rust then paint on mine but the engine is soo smooth. You'll love it.

TSWolf 01-24-2012 08:04 PM

Looking good:biggrin2:

Methos 01-24-2012 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Oak (Post 112314)
Good lookin supers Sam. That Kubota looks awesome and the side panels look great. Mine are busted up, wiring is a complete mess and I think there is more rust then paint on mine but the engine is soo smooth. You'll love it.

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Originally Posted by TSWolf (Post 112317)
Looking good:biggrin2:

I agree!:beerchug:

Sam Mac 01-25-2012 06:45 AM

Gonna start re-wiring the 2182 today. The purist’s will not be happy with my plan but since it’s my tractor it’s going to work the way I want it to work. All the nanny state safety switches have been removed. Thinking about installing real gages instead of the idiot lights on the dash. That will probably wait till next winter when I do a total disassemble, overhaul & repaint. Gotta find some 10” wide wheels for the rear so I can stick a set of R-4’s on it.

Oak 01-25-2012 07:33 AM

"All the nanny state safety switches have been removed."
Just for testing purposes right....:biggrin2: Then they will be replaced with new ones.

ACecil 01-25-2012 01:04 PM

Great job, Sam! Enjoy the pics of your supers!

Sam Mac 01-25-2012 06:21 PM

Got most of the wiring on the 2182 done today. Nice when you turn the key and it starts and run the way it should. :biggrin2:

Dave01 01-25-2012 06:28 PM

Did you add a relay on the starting circuit?

Sam Mac 01-25-2012 07:42 PM

No relay, just a diode from the starting circut to the run circut to power the fuel solenoid while it's cranking. Still have to wire the dash warning lights.

Dave01 01-25-2012 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam Mac (Post 112542)
No relay, just a diode from the starting circut to the run circut to power the fuel solenoid while it's cranking. Still have to wire the dash warning lights.

Can you explain that? Don't you want the fuel solenoid powered any time key is on?

Methos 01-26-2012 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave01 (Post 112566)
Can you explain that? Don't you want the fuel solenoid powered any time key is on?

I respect that you have redone your wiring harness but we're not going to be a place that teaches people how to bypass safety switches. Going any further with this is going to cross that line.

Oak 01-26-2012 06:00 AM

I was looking at the schematic and I can't find what powers the fuel solenoid. Sam do you have the the wiring diagram for the "installation of relays to prevent voltage problems" from Cub Cadet?

Sam Mac 01-26-2012 06:49 AM

Guys

I don't want to cause any troubles for the forum. I know that I can't tell you how to get around the safety switches and I have no intention of doing so. All I can say is that what I did satisfies what the system needs in order to function. The way it is setup at the moment is only for my use and if I ever decided to sell it I would need to put all of the safety switches back in operating condition. To do otherwise is just asking for a lawsuit. So sorry but I’m not going to put myself or this forum at risk by publishing what I did.

Vince_o 01-26-2012 06:56 AM

I did away wit all the safty switches on my 1872 cause the P/O trashed the harness. All the saftey stuff is gone on all of my stuff now. The last being the 106 cause the switch crapped out. I noticed on the 2072 that the brake switch is broken so that wont work when Im done with it.

I kinda look at it 2 differant was. Yep the nnay state stuff is for a reason, you should see some of the crap people bring into the shop, but you cant fix stupid! Danny is living proof of that when he flipped his tractor over on himself. I know Ill get the scolding for letting my kids ride tractors, but having the safty switch on the 100 wold have never prevented his stupidity and lack of judgement for thinking it was his quad! Those of you that were at Dons place to plow remember the creek by the food and sighn in table, that where he filpped it down in to the dreek.


I preach safety to my kids and others around me, but some times commen sense is worth more that 100 safety switches. I can scold you all in the way some of you move your cubs down the road, and the way you tie them off on the trailer. Its just not one thing to consider in the safety area for a brake switch or seat switch. How about what you do in the shop, behind the wheel, crossing the street. Theres been many a pic posted, me to here, of questionable safety habits..... ok Im done and will now step down oh and the coment on the relay has realy nothing to do with the safety system in the maner hes stating.

I like the diod thing. A doid only let power or amps flow one way.

Dave01 01-26-2012 06:56 AM

No problem on my end! I didn't realize the question I asked was about a safety switch, I'm more focused on the delayed start problem from running the juice through the ignition switch. I thought he might have a better solution than the relay.

Sam Mac 01-26-2012 07:20 AM

Guys

Cub uses a diode in most of the later tractors in order to supply power to the fuel solenoid during the crank cycle. It allows power to flow to the run circuit but not back to the starter solenoid once the key is turned to the run position. I used the factory diode as installed by cub on my 2182. Hope this clears up any questions. I hope this doesn’t violate any forum rules.

Sam

Methos 01-26-2012 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Sam Mac (Post 112599)
Guys

I don't want to cause any troubles for the forum. I know that I can't tell you how to get around the safety switches and I have no intention of doing so. All I can say is that what I did satisfies what the system needs in order to function. The way it is setup at the moment is only for my use and if I ever decided to sell it I would need to put all of the safety switches back in operating condition. To do otherwise is just asking for a lawsuit. So sorry but I’m not going to put myself or this forum at risk by publishing what I did.

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Originally Posted by Dave01 (Post 112601)
No problem on my end! I didn't realize the question I asked was about a safety switch, I'm more focused on the delayed start problem from running the juice through the ignition switch. I thought he might have a better solution than the relay.

Everything so far is ok with this thread but I could see where it was heading and I wanted to stop it before it got there. Wanting to know how to bypass the safety switches comes up several times a year, so this isn't unexpected.

Sam Mac 01-26-2012 05:32 PM

Duke

I was not ever going to explain how to bypass the safety switches. Been around too long to play that game.

Got the old girl running nice, now I'm waiting for a new drive shaft. Looks like the PO never knew the CV joints had grease fitting on them. Didn't plan on needing to replace it but better now while it's easy to get at. Going to check the valve lash also while the hood is off. I'm probably going to replace the bearings in the PTO while I have it off, they are getting a little stiff from old age, kind of like the owner LOL. Just got it nice and warmed up and did an oil change, cut the filter open to check for any signs of trouble so far all good.

Sam

Oak 01-26-2012 06:15 PM

Sam, where do you see the diode powering the solenoid? The print I have only shows it powering the mag and the fuel pump during cranking. I'm just checking to see if my print is wrong or I'm missing something. Thanks.

Sam Mac 01-26-2012 06:48 PM

Oak

Shoot me a PM and I'll explain.

Sam


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