2072 rear tires
 

My 2072 has a 60" Haban deck and turf tires on the rear. Land here is not really flat. I have quite a bit of trouble with spinning when turning up a hill or backing up a slight grade. Looking at the pics in another thread, I see most of you have cleat tires on your supers. How bad do they tear up the grass? Are they the same height as the original turf tires? I can't use anything shorter as there is hardly any ground clearance on the deck gauge wheels as it is.

I have ag's on our 782D and the only time I tear up grass is when I have to make a sharp turn uphill.

I loaded my turf tires with one gallon of windshield washer fluid each and the rest with water. That really helps with the spinning. I have never had a problem with them freezing either.

I run ag's, weights and 7 gallons of RV anti freeze in each tire. They don't spin and therefore, they don't tear up the turf. The front wheels come up off the ground but they don't tear up the turf.

I've considered adding weights, how much do they weigh each and how hard are they to find? I don't think adding water/anti-freeze alone will solve my problem. My dad outweighs me by 50lbs and he still has trouble with spinning. I guess I could just get some plate cut out with a plasma or water-jet and make my own weights.

You'd be surprised what a difference it can make. Yes, you may have a heavier operator on the tractor, but that weight is distributed over both rears, plus some on the fronts, so doesn't have all that much impact. If you fill the tires you can put 7 plus gallons in so the better part of 60 lbs. on each tire, the weight going directly to the ground under that tire. You can go with 70# wheel weights or filling the tires, or both though personally I think that is a lot of weight for just mowing.

We've never had serious trouble with traction until this mower. I think I'll try weighting the wheels before changing tires. The way I have the deck set-up is that it rolls on the ground with no weight on the tractor, that is probably making a big difference. You can lift the deck and normally it will stop spinning. But that is not practical to have to do so when turning uphill or just to backup. Are the weights for this machine interchangeable with other models?

First on the weights - I believe the weights will fit any 12" wheel, I'm sure you have 26x12x12 tires on your super, a gt would have 23x10.5x12 but I assume the weights would fit either.


I'd suggest you run your deck suspended, just use the guage wheels as guides that keep it from scalping. Unless you have a really flat smooth lawn I can't see running a deck on these tractors in roll on the ground mode. Once you level it you'll get great results with it suspended, plus it takes 10 seconds to change the height by using the hand screw on the stop by your right foot.

I know of a guy with a bunch of older Cadets, I'll see if he has a set of weights I can try.

I imagine the 60" deck weighs 2.5-3 times what a stamped deck does---too much for the tractor to have to carry in my opinion, thats why I have it set up to roll on all 4 wheels. I bored and sleeved the rear wheels with bronze bushings and installed front wheels with needle roller bearings. Haban really dropped the ball on the gauge wheels and the pivots for the front gauge wheels.

I know those 60" decks are heavy, but the newer GT decks I'm running are very heavy as well, and they run fine on the hangers. Unless there is something I don't know about those decks I'd say run it suspended and don't worry about it.

I do tote the front end a lttle bit but the back is riding on the ground. When I rebuilt the deck and mule drive I found lots of wear on the deck hangers and mule drive. It took quite a bit of welding and grinding to get rid of it.

I've found that the Supers tend to be light in the behind. Especially for something that makes the power they do. The stock turf tires are fine on flat dry ground. Add some dew or a grade and they are trash even with wheel weights. I added TruPower ag's on the rear and v61 ribs on the front of mine. 3 gals of windshield washer fluid in each front and 8 gals in each rear along with 50 lb wheel weights and it'll dang near climb a wet tree now. Rolling velcro. It's like a different tractor now. Got the tires from Miller tire. Great customer service.
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[QUOTE=squatch;121967]I've found that the Supers tend to be light in the behind. Especially for something that makes the power they do. The stock turf tires are fine on flat dry ground. Add some dew or a grade and they are trash even with wheel weights. I added TruPower ag's on the rear and v61 ribs on the front of mine. 3 gals of windshield washer fluid in each front and 8 gals in each rear along with 50 lb wheel weights and it'll dang near climb a wet tree now. Rolling velcro. It's like a different tractor now. Got the tires from Miller tire. Great customer service.


Definetly a serious pulling setup you have there. If weights don't help, I'll look into some Ag tires--the least agressive ones I can find since I'm not pulling anything heavy or gardening.

So far I don't use ground engaging equipment either. Just mowing and pulling trailers and pushing snow. But my property is hilly and north facing so it takes a while to dry from dew, rain, ect. Turfs were tearing up the place spinning! The tractor feels so much safer and more stable with good traction and the filled tires on the sloping areas. Because they don't spin the AG's do much less damage as well.

I agree with Squatch; the tractor is safer because you no longer have to worry about getting stuck on an uphill slope when the turfs start to spin. You just lay on the lever and horse it up the hill. Nothing worse than starting to spin on an uphill and having to back down. If that front end starts to slide around whilst backing down, it leads to all sorts of bad things. I put Ag's on all of my tractors, the V61's are my next step because it looks as if they will track better when pushing snow. Daggone I miss pushing snow.

I'd like to hear someone else's opinion on rolling the deck or suspending it - do you agree with me that it ought to be suspended, or with John that it ought to roll to take pressure off the hangers? One more comment on it - if you hang the deck, there's another 200 lbs. low down where you want it giving you more traction.

I hang my Haban deck on my 2072. Less chance of scalping as you are going to bridge the bumps with the longer wheel base of the tractor.

I have a 50c deck not the 60"Haban which I hear is much heavier. I hang mine and set the wheels so they just kiss the ground at the height I like to mow. There was a lot of wear on my hanger pins as well when I got the tractor. I had them welded up as well and reshaped them with some file work. Judging from the style of adjuster on the dolly wheels of the Haban deck I would suspect they are meant to carry a good bit of the load.

I pulled my 17' Bassboat up the hill of my backyard today on damp grass with my 1872 to get it up in the drive. It never even thought about spinning a tire!