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billh1963 03-26-2012 11:30 PM

Bought my first cub cadet...how did I do?
 
Well...I have been looking for a week so I finally bought my first one...what do you think?

I paid $1400.

The good:
No rust
Runs strong
Drive shaft replaced last fall

The bad:
PTO switch must be held up for mower deck to work
Headlight switch broken
Mower deck pretty well worn
Went to start it up to back off the trailer and the starter won't engage! No clicking or anything! Fuel pump runs...ideas?

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Darrell 03-26-2012 11:54 PM

Uh , WOOOOOOW !!!! :bigeyes: :bigeyes:

Darrell 03-27-2012 12:00 AM

The starter and PTO switch are available from one our sponsors. Your starter not engaging may also be the ignition switch , so you might do some testing.

The deck looks good in your pics ????

elbertjolley 03-27-2012 12:06 AM

Horrid, I will gladly give you, your money back to try again. LOL Just picking great find some people have all the luck geez

4SPEED 03-27-2012 12:09 AM

I really do like it. congrats

ACecil 03-27-2012 12:09 AM

You did very well!

cub1450 03-27-2012 12:13 AM

You did great on that one! Super sweet score.:beerchug:

billh1963 03-27-2012 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Darrell (Post 123414)
The starter and PTO switch are available from one our sponsors. Your starter not engaging may also be the ignition switch , so you might do some testing.

The deck looks good in your pics ????

The deck is pretty beat up. PO painted it.

Starter worked fine a couple of hours ago. PO disabled the safety interlock on the brake... But I pushed it in anyway. Glow plugs work, fuel pump runs, but no starter noises. Ammeter does register heavy discharge though when I turn the key.

Oak 03-27-2012 12:25 AM

Bill, you did well. The PTO switch has a contact that is closed when it is in the off position. The tractor will not start unless the switch is "off". Wigle the switch with the key in the start position to see if that helps. There is also a brake switch that must be closed for the tractor to start. Your starter could also be going bad as well. I would check the switches first. There is a starter upgrade post on here somewhere that explains how to replace the starter. Also check all your ground wires. I think there should be 2 heavy ground wires, one on the frame and one to the engine cradle or block. Good luck!

inspectorudy 03-27-2012 03:45 AM

Jump it
 
With a simple jumper cable from the battery to the starter (Positive) and the other to ground on the frame will tell you right now if it is the starter. I would do that first to save all of the safety switch detective work. Everyone is right here but if you want to know up front whether the starter is bad jump it. Otherwise you got a great deal in my opinion. I prefer yellow and white but red will do in a pinch!

squatch 03-27-2012 09:31 AM

I had some of the same issues on my 1872 and here is what I found. May help you. The PO had never adjusted the gap on the pto. That is probably why you have to hold it. Either that or it's because of one of the safety switches that were bypassed. Always a good idea to check the PTO gap. If it is too wide it will draw excess current. This will make the connectors at the PTO switch, ignition switch, and the PTO relay get hot and melt along with the PTO relay itself. I had to replace all of this on my tractor.

I'd start by setting the PTO gap. Then I would look up the wiring diagram and check that each and every safety switch is working or PROPERLY bypassed(not recommended). Some switches are normnally open and some are normally closed. Then move on to checking and cleaning the wiring connectors and grounds.

Beautiful tractor!

_DX3_ 03-27-2012 09:35 AM

The PO may have had the brake safety switch unhooked for that reason. It may be keeping the motor from starting if the switch is bad. If so I would replace the switch. And also as stated the PTO switch has a safety included to not allow the motor to start if the switch were to be in the engaged position. You will probably need to replace the PTO switch with a new one. As said our sponsors should have what you need. And these diesels are notorious for hard starting with the small garden tractor batteries, but it can be done. You need to find the largest CCA battery and put it in there. Also there is a glow plug upgrade that can be done to help cut down on the draw from the battery and also as mentioned, there is a high torque starter that can be upgraded to, with a bit of work. The only mod I have on my BRS is the glow plug mod and heavy gauge wires for the ground from the battery and for the positive wires. Factory size is just a bit small. I'll see if I can round up the starter and glow plug mod write ups for you. Even with these few things that need attention, you got an "awesome" Cub. Way to go. :beerchug:

KayakDon 03-27-2012 09:37 AM

My 2182 had the exact PTO problem. It was a bad seat safty switch. The PTO is designed to shut off if you get off of the seat. I'd check that . Great CUB! KayakDon

_DX3_ 03-27-2012 09:42 AM

OH... welcome to the OCC Smoker's Club. :beerchug:

Methos 03-27-2012 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by _DX3_ (Post 123486)
OH... welcome to the OCC Smoker's Club. :beerchug:

Oh yeah!:beerchug:

Congrats on a sweet smoker for a good price! everyone has given you some good info to get you started. Keep us posted!

billh1963 03-27-2012 02:42 PM

Went home at lunch and checked it out. The PTO switch was on! Turned it off and she fired right up. Drove it around the yard for 10 minutes for fun!

Methos 03-27-2012 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by billh1963 (Post 123537)
Went home at lunch and checked it out. The PTO switch was on! Turned it off and she fired right up. Drove it around the yard for 10 minutes for fun!

Awesome news!

Oak 03-27-2012 04:42 PM

Did you get that tractor in Georgia? If so.....:bash2:

ACecil 03-27-2012 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billh1963 (Post 123537)
Went home at lunch and checked it out. The PTO switch was on! Turned it off and she fired right up. Drove it around the yard for 10 minutes for fun!

That's awesome!

TheIHMan 03-27-2012 05:43 PM

Awesome looking diesel, my favorite. Welcome to the Smoker club

billh1963 03-27-2012 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Oak (Post 123554)
Did you get that tractor in Georgia? If so.....:bash2:

Yes! Outside Augusta

esarvey 03-27-2012 05:58 PM

Tractor police
 
If I was U I'd be lookin over my sholder a lot cause they going to git ya for rippin that poor PO off!!!LOL great find MAN git A plow come have some fun!!!
:beerchug:
Quote:

Originally Posted by billh1963 (Post 123537)
Went home at lunch and checked it out. The PTO switch was on! Turned it off and she fired right up. Drove it around the yard for 10 minutes for fun!


Sam Mac 03-27-2012 09:44 PM

Keep an eye out for Earl. His mission in life is to beat up on the Fuel Burners :biggrin2:

Oak 03-27-2012 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by billh1963 (Post 123572)
Yes! Outside Augusta

I thought so. I called him tonight and it was gone.

squatch 03-28-2012 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billh1963 (Post 123537)
Went home at lunch and checked it out. The PTO switch was on! Turned it off and she fired right up. Drove it around the yard for 10 minutes for fun!

We've all done it and I'm sure I will again! Congrats on a nice tractor.

billh1963 03-28-2012 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oak (Post 123730)
I thought so. I called him tonight and it was gone.

Sorry...he had it listed for several days before I saw the ad. I figured it would be gone before I got there. I showed up with cash and it was mine!

Methos 03-28-2012 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by billh1963 (Post 123762)
Sorry...he had it listed for several days before I saw the ad. I figured it would be gone before I got there. I showed up with cash and it was mine!

Not sure how Todd missed that one.:bigthink: He lets me know of cub deals on CL all the time. He's not picky he'll search all 50 states for cubs!:biggrin2:


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