Cub 169 questions???
 

Hi everyone,

I have a chance to trade for a 169. It runs, but isn't perfect. The owner can't find the motor id or it's been painted over. He did say it had 13 fins on the block. The muffler is not correct and it needs a gas tank. What else should I look for? What are 169 specific parts? It doesn't have lights either. Did they come with lights? It does have a hydraulic lift and part of a three point. I'm trading an original and a 126 for it. Thoughts?

Thanks

Stuart

My thought is go for it. If it has the 169 specific muffler (long, larger than a muffler like your 126 has), if it has an hour meter below the gas tank, if the engine has 10 headbolts, if the serial number has the four digits "0048", you should be set. If it also has the large thick air cleaner its definately a 169. Im sure im missing stuff, I just went through this a few weeks ago when I got my two. Even if its missing a few characteristics, its still a neat tractor since they made around 4000 of them. :beerchug:

They are highly sought after. What was mentioned above are the things too look for. :beerchug:

Make sure to do as Ryan said and count the head bolts. Other kohlers had 13 fins, K321 (14 horse), K301 (12 horse), etc had 13 fins. The 169 would of had headlights from the factory, but they are easy to find. Muffler, hard to find. Still a low production cub. What kind of shape is your Original and 126 in? Got pics of all three? Would be easier to give an idea of good trade versus ok trade. :biggrin2: Good luck and keep us posted.

Hi everyone thanks for the info. Here's a pic of the 169. My original is indecent shape. It was painted red at one time. It takes a v deck and regular clutch instead of the timed square deck, but I don't have parts to put a deck in it. The 126 is a salvage rescue. I'm going to put a 12 in it to get it running and that's what I'm trading.ill post pictures when I get a chance.


Thanks again,

Stuart

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x...e/f34ba73b.jpg

I see a little air cleaner and no serial tag. Starting to look NOT like a 169....

If that's the correct air cleaner for that motor that that is NOT a 169. If that was a true 169 than I would trade but since it looks like it's not I would not trade.

I'm seeing too many things that says it is not a 169. If you can get the serial number that will tell the tale for sure.

The exhaust on a true 16 HP is also a larger diameter that other models. This picture is a 16 HP off a 169.

http://www.onlycubcadets.net/forum/p...pictureid=2966

No way would I trade for that. That looks like a 129 with a 169 dash tower. The stripes don't even aligned up....probably why he wants to trade you. If it doesn't have a serial tag like this tractor looks then it is worthless as a collector piece. Way too much wrong with it.

I agree, if it isnt a 169 serial # youre better off keeping your other Cubs. I made the mistake on my #1 169 by not checking the engine out. Ended up getting a 14hp instead of a 16hp. Now it will take me months to find the correct engine with all the correct parts.

To know for sure if that is a 169 or not is by the serial number tag which on 169's would be on the left hand side of the frame by the clutch/neutral pedal. I don't see a tag. I also see the left hand side panel where the hour meter would be located is gone. Mufflers and air cleaners can be replaced if worn or lost. Count the headbolts and fins. Could be a 16 horse. But not being able to verify with the serial number would make it hard to prove it's a real 169 and could hurt resale in the future if you'd ever decide to sell..........
Ask to seller if he can verify the serial number or has the tag somewhere.

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Look to see if the serial number is located on the rear end running vertically. If this is the case, run don't walk. It would be a fake 169. All 169's have the serial number tag on the left side frame. Can't tell from the pic if the tags there (painted over) or missing. Keep us posted on what ya find out.

Hi y'all,

Just wanted to thank all of you for your help. I haven't been able to get the owner to give me the tractor serial number or count headbolts yet. No detail pictures either. I'm interested in it still because of the hydraulic lift and it has part of the three point on it, but my interest is slowly waning... I don't like asking questions and not getting answers. It's a 3.5 hour drive, so I want to know what I'm getting before I spend money in gas... So, I'll let y'all know what happens. On a side note, if anyone has a 147, 149, 169, etc you might be interested in horse trading, just let me know....

Stuart

If you like it, find out the "buy it" price, you might be happy just trading dollars for it.:bigthink:

even if its a 109, 129 or 149, your gunna love it. the hydro lift is a super nice luxury and its got ags so that helps with other chores too.

Hi everyone,

Just an update. I finally got the serial number. It's 2050048v51498. The motor looks like it is out of a quiet line as it has a regual starter... No starter/generator. It had headlights. The switch is still there, but the rest is gone. So is the chassis a 169?

Thanks,

Stuart

Congratulations 0048 = 169

The chassis is a 169, if the serial number was on the frame by the brake pedal. The 0048 is the machine code they used to identify them. There should be more numbers at the end of that serial number though, the last 6 digits tell the month and year...im sure others will help out.