1862 steering to 1863 fit
 

Hi guys its been awhile since I've been here I hope all are doing well ! My last post were about the time I obtained a 1863 and the question is about that same tractor. I have a chance to pick up a 1862 for parts what I wanted to do was install the power steering onto my 1863 can you tell me if its a direct bolt on? Also the 1862 has the 18 hp magnum not running what do you suppose that is worth? is 250.00 a good price for a parts tractor minus the deck, mule drive, rear end?
Thanks Doug

1811Woody,

I did the PS conversion on my 1541. At the same time I converted the front axle assembly to the version on the 1863/4. The change is pretty easy. All the needed parts may on the 1862 (assuming it is complete). You may have to get different lines that come out of the charge pump. I don't have the 1863 in my parts book so I don't know if the pump is the same. The 1862 and 1864 do have the same pump in the book I have. Should not be too expensive if do need them.

You will most likely have to remove the dash tower. I would do it no matter what just to make the needed room to do everything right. Check the ball ends on the PS cylinder, they do wear out.

$250 for the PS alone is an OK deal. That is usually what they get on eBay for that.

Good Luck and take pictures.

An 1863 has a Hydro-Gear pump and I don't know if that will cause a problem or not.

Ok thanks guys I guess I thought if I had the steering column /box and the lines and cylinder it would be a direct bolt up. The 1863 already has the hydraulic lift so I figured it would have the same pump. Now I'm nervous about buying the parts tractor.

Woody

I think it would work. If you already have the hydro lift it should be able to run the steering.

1811Woody,

You can't go wrong if the parts tractor is $250. You can sell the PS parts for that much. I did some looking at the 1863 vs the 1864 and it looks like the conversion is more complicated then I thought. The two models use different pumps that have different plumbing for the hydro lines. The conversion can be done. But it would require fabricating new hydro connections from the pump to the PS unit. Personally I would do it if I was in your position. PS is a great feature in my book, especially for snow throwing. Having the 1862 pump would make this a lot easier of course.

Maybe some of the other members can help. I do not know the 1863 that well.

I would not put power steering on a tractor with a Hydro Gear pump. The Sunstrand pumps were used for PS tractors and all supers .

buy or not?
 

Come to think of it he said he would leave the pump, he's just taking the rear end. The motor doesn't run the starter or solenoid is bad, so I have no idea if anything is any good. He says it turns over buy hand and it feels like it has compression. It sure is a risky deal what do you think buy or leave it alone?

Maybe you could just give him your pump and differential and he could leave his in the tractor? Your problem would be solved.

That's an option I could consider. I could also just buy it and if I decide not to use it I could sell it and make a few bucks

When I added PS to my 1811 I used the 1864 front axle and spindles because they were already set up for PS. Also as someone mentioned some of the hydro lines have different ends on them from other models and that would be a little more trouble to convert them or replace them. I did not remove my tower and it didn't cause any big problems because it helped me set the column in correctly and mount it at the right height. It also makes anything that might be a problem for fit obvious when you insert the column into the tower. Also if you want to add front hydraulics now is the time to do it. You'll love it once it is finished. I have been buying and restoring/selling older John Deere garden tractors and they all had PS except for the 317. Makes you wonder why it is so expensive to buy the parts now when it couldn't have been that expensive back in the '80's. I used the PS valve from a JD 318 and it is the same one used by CC on their early models, (5 port). They are easier to find than CC units also. The only fabrication I had to do was the valve holder bracket that attaches the valve to the frame. Other than that it was hoses and fittings and a big smile on my face!:beerchug:

Was the 1864 the donor for all of your 1811 ps parts? Is the pump the same from your donor as the 1811? I wonder now if it would be easier to put the ps on my 1811 instead of my 1863. ok I looked in my book and answered my own question. I guess my 1863 is kind of a bastard it has the hydro gear, that figures.

1541 power steering upgrade
 

Hello: I’m new here and recently bought a old 1541 Cub Cadet. How many parts do I need to buy, in order to make the power steering complete setup off of a 1864 Cub Cadet, work?

All the steering components. The steering column, steering wheel to valve. The steering cylinder and brackets. The front axle would be good to get too. Get all the hydro lines from the 1864 and use what you need. Sometimes you can find someone selling the complete system online. The sponsors at the top will know what you need as well.

What is the serial number of your 1541? At 816,509 and above they switched to Hydro-Gear transmissions. The 1864 uses the Sunstrand transmission and the lines will be different.