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So just recently I sold my John Deere 312 44" cut and my Craftsman 36" cut Rider and purchased a 1995 Cub Cadet 1440 with a 14hp Brigs Vanguard V-twin that ran perfect for the start of this summer. Two weeks ago an electrical short with lots of smoke come out under the hood. After a further investigation, found the wire harness was melted under where the batter sits. Last week I got a new wire harness in and hooked it all up and had no fire to the motor so I purchased a new magneto, two armatures and starter. Its getting plenty of fuel and the motor cranks over smoothly. Can anyone help me in a wire diagram or photos of the motor where everything hooks up. I have a yellow wire near the starter unhooked as well I don't know where the black wire goes from the two armatures. Also there are three red wires near the starter that are hot when key is on. Ive looked all over this forum and net for a wire diagram and manual with no luck. Im not use to cub cadets yet.. Found a lot of great info on this forum, thanks admin for this site.

Well, to start off,

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The site is a little short on newer Cub Cadet wiring diagrams, so you probably did not miss it, I could not find one for my 2284.:bigthink:

Somebody will be along with the reason for those wires being there!! :biggrin2:

Welcome to OCC! Glad to have you!

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Welcome, sorry I do not have an answer to your wiring problems.

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Take a look at the Flash drive I gave you with the 2284, it has the wiring for the 2284 on it :biggrin2:

1440

Send me a PM with your e-mail address and I'll send you the wiring diagram for a 1641, wiring should be the same as the 1440.

Welcome to OCC:beerchug:

Diagram sent to the E-Mail address listed in your profile.

Hey thanks to all for the above info. I have looked at the diagram that was sent to me and traced every wire after removing the engine for the 3rd time off frame. I rechecked everything twice and covered all the wires back up and placed the motor back in and well, I still have no fire. Im so lost on why its not working. Motor runs fine or well did before I decided to replace the stator and armaters.

I did find the wire on the armatures was bad so I replaced it. That is a ground wire or at least I hope since I hooked it up back where it was with the yellow wire(kill wire) as im reading. Any other help or ideas?

Pull the Yellow Wire off the M terminal of the ignition switch and see if it starts.

I did pull the yellow wire off of the M, key switch and also from the side of the motor where it attaches to the wire from the armatures. I was told it was a Kill wire for the motor. It still has no spark or fire. Im in the process of looking at all the wires again to make sure nothing is crossed. Im certian it doesnt take any wire to make a spark, just the stator, armatures and starter. I think I have something hooked up wrong..looking at my wires

Sounds like you have a bad Magneto(s).

The Stator is for "charging". The "starter" is for rolling the engine over. I am not clear on what you mean by armature. However, none of these three items have anything to do with the "spark".

Im not sure bedell. This is the third(second one I broke) one I bought from briggs. It just has 4 bolts and two yellow wires that has a connection already on it that plugs into my votage reg. Im almost done tracing all the wires and bout to hook them back up. I didnt find anything wrong.

Where does the wire from the armature go? is it a ground or hot?
Does it connect to the yellow wire thats already ran and connected to the housing?

Did you replace the wire between the two armatures with a homemade wire? That is the kill wire and it has a diode in it. It’s number 5 in the pic. Part number 493792 WIRE ASSEMBLY

Briggs calls the Mags Armatures, don't ask me why.

Yes I did replace it with a homemade wire. I didnt see no diode in it since it was all broken in pieces and chewed up from the flywheel.

My guess is if you remove your wire it will start and as long as you have the fuel shutdown solenoid wired correctly it will shut off but it will take a few seconds to shut off. You will need the proper wire harness from Briggs in order for it to function properly.

Just sent you a pic to your e-mail showing how a Vanguard is wired.

Sam Mac you was right. I cut the wire that I made and it started but only was running on one cylender. Im in the process of ordering a new wire as we speak. Its been an agravating week but at least its running.

Thanks for the Vanguard Diagram, I will definetly use it. Im thinking of restoring this whole machine this winter. Its a great mower and thanks for everyones help.

It should run on both cylinders with your wire removed. You may have cooked one of the Mags they way you had it hooked up. See if you have spark on both plugs.

I am going to move this thread to the MTD CCC area since this is turning into more of the how do I fix this type of deal.

I had the same issue with my Vaguard. There is a diode in each wire that goes to each mag. Go to Radio-shack and get 2 $2 diodes and put them in each kill wire. The ones I picked up are rated at 1000 volts @ 1.5 amps. The new harness that came with my mags didn't have them in either. The diode keeps them from grounding each other out.

If you do this make sure you get the diodes in the correct direction. Diodes are a one way check valve for electricity. Perhaps Todd can post what way they go.

Yep, the stripe on it goes on the side that connects to the mag. The part number I used was 276-1114.