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Shrewcub 06-22-2013 09:52 PM

I loaded my 1864 rear tires today, here's how
 
I had watched a video using the fluid fill adapter they sell at TSC. I read a couple forum posts about breaking the bead and pouring it in. I had even purchased the fill adapter from TSC. When I got home today with the last 14 gallons of winter washer fluid that Walley World had, it hit me! I had a vacuum pump, some clear 3/8 vinyl tubing and a 5 gallon bucket. I did NOT have a valve core tool! So 40 minutes later, after a trip to Lowes, I began.

I removed the tires from the tractor and laid them flat on the ground. Removed the valve core, stuck one end of the tubing on the pump (it fit nice and tight on the port) and the other end over the valve stem ( also fit nice and tight) and turned on the pump. It is a 1.5 cfm pump for A/C work. 3 minutes later the sound of the pump changed and the tire looked really funny!:D I folded the collapsed hose over at the pump, turned it off, removed it and stuck it in the full bucket (which I sat on another 5 gal bucket so I would also have gravity on my side). After 10 minutes I added 2 more gallons of washer fluid and 1 gallon of water. After 20 minutes I removed the hose from the empty bucket and valve stem, replaced the valve core, and added 10 psi of air.

Each tire is now 63 lbs heavier and the only real work was putting those heavy suckers back on the tractor! I went around the yard to the spots that I used to have traction problems and WOW what a difference! Now I may need wheelie bars!!! :biggrin2: Just thought I would share how I did it. Hope it makes sense :beerchug:

Diz Jr. 06-22-2013 11:39 PM

Great idea Shrewcub
It does make a huge difference.
I have all my Garden tractor tires loaded.

cubby102 06-22-2013 11:51 PM

Yea wheelie bars are a plus lol my 782 would just spin the tires even on pavement. Inloaded the tires and about half rev I thre the hydro forward from a dead stop and I was seeing the sky. Came down so hard the hood emblem broke off and went flying over my head and it bent the front 1 inch spindles. If it wernt for the rear blade it woulda flipped over onnme

J-Mech 06-23-2013 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Shrewcub (Post 201683)
Each tire is now 63 lbs heavier and the only real work was putting those heavy suckers back on the tractor!

I always tube a loaded tire. Keeps the rims from rusting. :Huh: I'm not sure how much your tires weigh altogether, but I weighed mine before I put them on once. I use liquid calcium. Altogether, (rim, tire and fluid) weighed right at 100 lbs.

Shrewcub 06-23-2013 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by J-Mech (Post 201765)
I always tube a loaded tire. Keeps the rims from rusting. :Huh: I'm not sure how much your tires weigh altogether, but I weighed mine before I put them on once. I use liquid calcium. Altogether, (rim, tire and fluid) weighed right at 100 lbs.

I thought about that, but I don't think my tires are gonna last too much longer. they are the originals from 1993. They sat idle for 8 years! I wanted to weigh them but don't have a suitable scale.

CADplans 06-23-2013 10:18 AM

Calcium is used in water for two things

lowers the freezing temp

makes the liquid solution heavier

You could use sugar to get the same effect of making a heavy solution, but, there would be a lot of tractors stolen by bears because of the sweet tires.. :biggrin2:

Another way to add fluid if you do not have a pump, is to siphon in the fluid.

Each foot the fluid is raised above the tire will cause 1/2 psi pressure.

6 feet of height (hang the bucket from a rafter in a garage) will create 3 psi.

When the flow slows down, pull the hose off the valve, the 3 psi of air will come out of the tire, put the hose back on, continue filling.

I have a 8 foot length of gas line that fits over the valve stem perfectly, it is kept just for tire filling.

You could put the bucket on the roof 30 feet high, then you would get 15 psi, but I have found that my wife gets tired of carrying all that fluid up the ladder and up the slippery metal roof!! :bigeyes:

Humphrey 06-24-2013 09:17 AM

Personally I put a second valve stem in the tires 180 degrees from each other. Pull the valve cores and lay the tire on its side. Funnel the fluid in till it runs out the second hole. Put in the core, pull the hose off, slap in the second core air up and mount. Might have had 15 minutes into filling two tires.

PaulS 06-24-2013 09:35 AM

I was thinking about this very thing last night. I thought someone would eventually post how they did it but I did not expect to see a post the very next day. Thanks guys.

Leadslingingdaddy 06-24-2013 12:31 PM

I just loaded 2 26x12 for a tractor of a different color in 30 minutes which includes breaking the beads...Lay them down, push down on the tire then fill till it overflows...Put core in valve stem hit with 9psi....then repeat.... easy as that....

Sam Mac 06-24-2013 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Leadslingingdaddy (Post 202058)
I just loaded 2 26x12 for a tractor of a different color in 30 minutes which includes breaking the beads...Lay them down, push down on the tire then fill till it overflows...Put core in valve stem hit with 9psi....then repeat.... easy as that....

Way to go! :beerchug:

vargafarm 06-25-2013 04:49 PM

I transfered fluid from an old full sized tractor tire to the replacement by using an electric sprayer pump.
Had to stop a couple of times to release the air.

alabama mike 06-30-2013 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by J-Mech (Post 201765)
I always tube a loaded tire. Keeps the rims from rusting. :Huh: I'm not sure how much your tires weigh altogether, but I weighed mine before I put them on once. I use liquid calcium. Altogether, (rim, tire and fluid) weighed right at 100 lbs.

If you use anti-freeze would that keep your rims from rusting? I want to do this to one of my tractors but just not sure what to use, I've also heard windshild wiper solvent. so just what would be the best thing to use?

Sam Mac 06-30-2013 10:04 AM

Mike I use RV anti freeze in my stuff but you can use windshield fluid, Rim Guard, anti freeze with out tubes or Cal if you put tubes in or you will rot the rims. Some guys have said they get used anti freeze at some repair shops cheap and use that.
I lay the tire on it's side valve core up and break the upper bead and just pour it in. I have one that has tubes so I'm going to try the sprayer pump idea, sounds like it should work good.

alabama mike 07-12-2013 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam Mac (Post 203084)
Mike I use RV anti freeze in my stuff but you can use windshield fluid, Rim Guard, anti freeze with out tubes or Cal if you put tubes in or you will rot the rims. Some guys have said they get used anti freeze at some repair shops cheap and use that.
I lay the tire on it's side valve core up and break the upper bead and just pour it in. I have one that has tubes so I'm going to try the sprayer pump idea, sounds like it should work good.

well, I got the anti-freeze gonna load up a set this weekend, thanks for the info!!

joenemesis 09-17-2013 09:42 AM

Beet juice can also be used as an alternative to calcium, it doesn't eat your rims and is biodegradable should you puncture your tire. We started using that at my dad's shop as disposing of old calcium is very expensive.

yesmar74 09-20-2013 05:53 AM

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It's so easy......9 gal. of WWF in each 10.5
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Shrewcub 11-17-2013 11:51 PM

Well 5 months later I noticed that my 20 year old tires have some seepage :bash2: I will be using tubes from now on.

otcp71 12-02-2013 03:22 PM

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One of the easiest things I have done on my 2072 with loader.9 gallons of RV antifreeze per tire.Did not use any fittings on valve stem,just rubber hose.

Sam Mac 12-02-2013 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by otcp71 (Post 229169)
One of the easiest things I have done on my 2072 with loader.9 gallons of RV antifreeze per tire.Did not use any fittings on valve stem,just rubber hose.

Looks like you are using some type of pump? If so what is it?

otcp71 12-02-2013 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam Mac (Post 229170)
Looks like you are using some type of pump? If so what is it?

It's a simple small pond waterfall pump I had laying around.

Sam Mac 12-02-2013 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by otcp71 (Post 229172)
It's a simple small pond waterfall pump I had laying around.


I have one of those Northern Tool 15 Gal 12 volt powered sprayers. I think I can take the wand off and replace it with a tire chuck and let it rip. :bigthink:

Thanks for the idea:beerchug:

Shrewcub 12-27-2014 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Shrewcub (Post 226498)
Well 5 months later I noticed that my 20 year old tires have some seepage :bash2: I will be using tubes from now on.

I don't know what that was all about. I haven't noticed any thing since I posted that. May have just been condensation on the rims.

CubCadet129 02-04-2015 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by J-Mech (Post 201765)
I always tube a loaded tire. Keeps the rims from rusting. :Huh: I'm not sure how much your tires weigh altogether, but I weighed mine before I put them on once. I use liquid calcium. Altogether, (rim, tire and fluid) weighed right at 100 lbs.


You can't fill tubed tires with liquid.

Shrewcub 02-04-2015 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by CubCadet129 (Post 309674)
You can't fill tubed tires with liquid.

Why not? :Huh:

CubCadet129 02-04-2015 11:55 AM

I went in to a local Napa and asked them and that's what they said

jimbob200521 02-04-2015 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by CubCadet129 (Post 309680)
I went in to a local Napa and asked them and that's what they said

Definitely something you can do :beerchug:

DoubleO7 02-04-2015 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by CubCadet129 (Post 309680)
I went in to a local Napa and asked them and that's what they said

They also can't look up what tail light bulb is needed for a 1981 Ford pickup truck without knowing if it has air conditioning first.

DoubleO7 02-04-2015 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by CubCadet129 (Post 309674)
You can't fill tubed tires with liquid.

That is true!
Unless you let the air out of the tube, there is no space in the tire for the fluid.
When you pour the fluid in via the bead.

Shrewcub 02-04-2015 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DoubleO7 (Post 309696)
That is true!
Unless you let the air out of the tube, there is no space in the tire for the fluid.
When you pour the fluid in via the bead.

Huh? When tubes are used, the fluid is put inside the tube via the valve stem.

DoubleO7 02-04-2015 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Shrewcub (Post 309697)
Huh? When tubes are used, the fluid is put inside the tube via the valve stem.

LOL, think about the wording.

Shrewcub 02-04-2015 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DoubleO7 (Post 309707)
LOL, think about the wording.

Sorry, my brain ain't working too good today. :bash2:

cubfan 02-05-2015 10:23 AM

Well I guess quiet a few of us are geniuses cause I for one have put WWF in 8 different 26×12×12's with tubes in them.I think I managed to get 11 gals in 4 of them and about 10gals in the other 4.Difference being the wheels.I just use a pressurized pump up sprayer.Works grrrrreat.

vargafarm 03-07-2015 07:30 PM

I've pulled fluid out of a 15.5 38 using a 12 volt sprayer pump.
Transferred it from a tire with a bad rim into a good tire, took out the valve cores and used hose clamps to connect the two.
Had to stop a few times to let the air out as the fluid filled it.

Woodbutcher 04-26-2015 11:47 AM

Has anyone tried buckshot?

Sam Mac 04-26-2015 04:47 PM

My guess is it would work but probably very expensive. :bigthink:

o---o 04-26-2015 05:17 PM

So I need about 9 gallons for a Tru Power 23 10.50?

Shrewcub 04-26-2015 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by o---o (Post 325309)
So I need about 9 gallons for a Tru Power 23 10.50?

Probably 7-8.

o---o 04-26-2015 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Shrewcub (Post 325324)
Probably 7-8.

Thanks, I want to buy enough but not too much.


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DoubleO7 04-26-2015 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Woodbutcher (Post 325250)
Has anyone tried buckshot?

Might look into recycled shot.
It is available online.
Or get in touch with your local shooting range.

micahw 03-18-2016 09:43 PM

tip
 
I keep a 2 liter soda bottle, drill a hole in cap and bottom that fits a valve stem. take core out of bottom stem and clamp a piece of hose to it. you can even put a shutoff valve in the hose if you want. fill the bottle with fluid attach hose to wheel stem and pressurize the bottle with air , and it will push fluid out the bottom. This works great for gear oil in the winter too, esp for those hard to get to gearboxes. Have also used it to test junk cars with no fuel pump as you can regulate line pressure to simulate fuel pump.


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