My new...... super?
 

Ok, well, it's not a super. But I don't have one of those yet, and this was the closest thing I could get for now. Buddy of mine had it, and had been bugging me about buying it. A friend of mine and I shared a tractor a while back. He owned the tractor, I owned all the attachments. He fell into financial trouble and decided to sell the tractor, and I was left with nothing to use my stuff on. Thought a Lo-Boy with 3pt would work ok. Only thing I'm not sure what I'm going to do with is that stupid reverse running PTO. Maybe I'll drop a diesel in it backwards and flip the ring gear...... :bigthink: :biggrin2::biggrin2:

Anyway, got it for a "Lew" price, and it needs some work. Lets just say, the 3pt on it is worth more than I paid. Needs driveline work, and maybe a S/G. The S/G was off of it, and I don't know why, but they said it would run..... (Heard that before.) May convert it over to a starter/alternator set-up while I'm in there. Throttle cable must have broke, and a make-shift throttle put on the R.H. side. (That will be fixed directly.) Plan on putting the taller ag tires on it, and the skinny try ribs on the front. If I don't end up liking it, I'll trade it for something I will! Let me know what you think!

Lo-Boy 185
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I think I have all the parts. And yes, it does have individual rear brakes! The 3pt, and dual brakes were the sellers for me. I'll probably sell the deck and carriage as I really have no use for a mower that big. (But, as usually happens, later I'll be like, "Man, wish I hadn't gotten rid of that deck!")

Drive that thing around for a while, you will get a hankerin' for some 10,000 pound iron, BTDT!!:bigeyes:

Sweet machine, the big deck is addictive, be careful!!

Congrats on the Lowboy Jonathan!
Looks in good shape!:beerchug:

Start looking for a PTO reverser. :biggrin2:

:ExtremeFunny: He'll have more in that than the tractor!

Nice "Super" :beerchug:

i second this quote!

Looks like a good project.Just what you needed to keep you busy.

I know right? As if I don't already have them stacked up! Oh well, gotta have something to do. Bad news...... I have another forced "project". Trans in my truck broke over the weekend. Went to back up to the garage..... BAM! Reverse broke.

So that's what I should do with my old lazy boy! Haha :biggrin2:

That looks like a solid machine to start with, I hope it does fire up for ya. You could get a flail mower for the back, they were made to run on the backwards pto. Bummer about your truck trans, if it's not one thing it's 10!

Bill

I already do! But, as much as I would use one (quite a bit) and the fact that I don't have anywhere to keep it.... I'll wait. Someday maybe!


Thanks Mike!


If you mean the seat.... yeah, I don't care for it. It'll get replaced. Besides, it's ripped in the center. Just what I need, a wet a$$!! I thought about the flail mower.... but that's not really the attachment I need (mower). I need to be able to use my ditcher, and post hole digger. The digger I think I can buy/build a reverse screw auger. Ditcher..... maybe I can make a reversed rotor for it?.... :bigthink:


As far as the PTO and a reverser..... That would be expensive! But, to my knowledge, they didn't make one for that particular PTO. The old F-Cubs PTO was the same as the Cub Cadets, and the Hub City one will work on them. This has a independent live PTO, and it just sticks out the back above the trans. I don't think they ever made one. I've been trying to figure out how to make one.... but haven't come up with anything yet. :HeadScratch:

That's neat, Jonathan. I've always liked the looks of the Lo-Boys. I almost bought one a couple years ago, but just can't justify it. You'll have it running in no time! congrats!

As far as the PTO and a reverser..... That would be expensive! But, to my knowledge, they didn't make one for that particular PTO. The old F-Cubs PTO was the same as the Cub Cadets, and the Hub City one will work on them. This has a independent live PTO, and it just sticks out the back above the trans. I don't think they ever made one. I've been trying to figure out how to make one.... but haven't come up with anything yet. :HeadScratch:[/QUOTE]

Jon

Maybe you could modify something like this to work :bigthink:

http://www.hubcityinc.com/SingleRedu...aftDrives.html

Congrats Jonathan!

Congrats on the lo boy Jonathan , another project!:beerchug:

Thanks Frank! I hope so! I've been looking it over, and making a list of parts. Someone really grenaded the clutch on this thing. :angry:


Thanks Sam! Those may work! I knew Hub City was still in business, but hadn't taken the time to see what they had available. I had looked at their stuff before, but it had been a while. Like I just said to Frank, someone really tore up the clutch on this thing.... Gotta make it run first.


Thanks Allen and Nick! :beerchug:

Congrats on the Low Boy:beerchug:
I was thinking you needed something to work on pretty quick, cause you were running out of things to do:biggrin2:

Thanks Todd!
Yeah, as if I'll ever run out of stuff to do! :biggrin2::biggrin2::biggrin2:

Like I always say, "If you want something done, give it to a busy man."

Jonathan, I think that's you!

Well, your right about the busy part.... but some days it doesn't feel like I get anything done! I've had about 10 days of that here lately. Got a truck here in the shop that JUST WON'T LEAVE!!! :bash2::bash2::bash2:

Very cool..are those about the size of a 8-9n ford?? 4 cyl??Live hydr, or with pto??never seen one in person... I like that, very good score..just be cool to see someone mowing yard on one of those..

Great looking acquisition! I can't wait till you get it going. Hopefully you can get something worked out with the PTO and be able to keep it :beerchug:

Nah, they're smaller than a 8N. A 185 is rated at about 15-16hp. Live hydraulics. Yes it has a rear independent live PTO, but it turn backwards. I don't plan to mow with this one. Not the yard anyway. :biggrin2: The local school still has one. It's a red 184. I don't think they use it anymore, but they did when I was in school. Matter of fact, they had a 784 International with a belly mower that they mowed with too!! That's a pretty big tractor to use as a mower!

Sounds cool, why did the cubs pto turn backwards? To sell their own implements?? That will be something sweet with some lugged tires on it...

I'm excited about it! I hope I can do something with the PTO too. It may just prove to be too expensive. We'll see.


Well, no it didn't have anything to do with proprietary implements. The implements were made for the tractor because of the PTO turning backwards.

Here's the reason. Most engines turn counter clockwise looking at the rear of the engine. (There are a few cases where that isn't true, but it's a pretty inclusive rule.) With rare exception, as in the Cubs and some older Kubota's, the PTO turns clockwise when looking at it. Which would be the opposite way the engine turns. That is because they are driven off of the lower shaft (or a shaft inside of the lower shaft) of the transmission. That just wasn't possible with the F-Cubs and cub cadets because of room. So, they are driven off the top shaft of the trans, and that makes them turn the wrong way. I can supply pics, if that doesn't make any sense. :beerchug:

I guess that's why Kohler considers the PTO side of the engine the rear. :bigthink:
Magnums anyway, I don't know on the K's.

I have incorrectly thought for years that the Kohler motors turned backwards. That is not the case. They are installed backwards, according to Kohler. It's kind of an odd case because most engines, the "rear" of the motor is the flywheel end. On an air cooled engine, the flywheel is not considered the "power" end, the end with the PTO is. All Kohler motors are labeled this way. The PTO end is the technical rear. That is the reason that on the diesel cubs, the flywheel end is at the front. Because the Kohler is backwards installed, the diesel has to be too.

Think I recall you and I having this discussion before. :biggrin2:

Yes we have! I agree with you. :beerchug:

Thanks, thats good stuff...no i understand, i just was wondering why they didnt engineer around that, unless it opened up a special market to sell their own pto driven implements, but you explained it well..not much room on a gt and they were the first driven by shaft which changed things, right??

The PTO's don't run in reverse because of them being shaft driven. That's not why they didn't have room. They couldn't run the PTO off the lower shaft because the differential is driven off the lower shaft. In almost all other transmissions (cars, trucks, tractors) the top shaft is a two piece unit. An input, and and output. The rear of the top shaft is the pinion gear. The lower shaft is one piece and just is used to make gears. On the cub/cadet trans the lower shaft is the pinion, and the top shaft is one piece. There was no way, with out making a completely new trans, to run the PTO the "correct" direction. So, it became what it is. Then, so that it has a use, in the F-Cub and lo-boy line, they built attachments for it. Kinda like the supers and the Cat 0 tillers, and the rear mower. Only, on the older gear drive cubs, IH never made any attachments for them. I suspect they intended to, but didn't.

remember too that the pto runs at almost engine speed some where around 1800 rpms most pto stuff runs at 540. had an old dearborn 3 point sickle mower on mine reverse rotation didnt matter because its just a pitmin arm setup on the mower. to fix the speed problem i took off the pulleys at front of pto shaft to engine and put on sprockets one small one big to reduce speed. kind of redneck but it worked

I want a low boy someday, just need to find one with a sickle bar on it. cool tractor

Yes, the lo-boy PTO's turn at approx engine speed. The cub cadet (with a gear drive) turns at about 515 RPM's, and the supers at about 1800 also.

I like IH and cub cadet lessons in history.....thanks...

When I got out of the army I still had a few months before college started up so I got a summer job at a resort mowing grass. I don't remember the model number but it was a Loboy and it was old, even back then. Spent about 40 hours a week riding that thing. Just before I was heading off to school they traded it on a new JD diesel.

I'm looking forward to getting this one up and going. I've wanted one for a while now too. :beerchug:


Your welcome..... I guess. LOL. I've spent countless hours researching. But I used to work for Case IH, and we ran IH on the farm. My family even owned the local dealer for a while. IH's history is pretty cool. It's too bad that the higher ups got greedy, and let the company fail.


I think it would be cool to stuff a diesel in a lo-boy........ :bigthink:

4BT :biggrin2:

:beerchug:

That would be pretty cool!! But that's a pretty tall motor. I think most all the Kubota 4 cylinders would fit.

The 4BT would be AWESOME though!!!

have an isuzu reefer motor in garage now but its just too big for the loboy. my basket case tractor i think im gonna make into a hydro or at least attempt it. thinking 1650 trans flip charge pump and carrier and loboy finals

I'm not sure I followed that...... :bigthink:

Are you saying the Isuzu won't fit in a lo-boy, and your going to make a lo-boy into a hydro? Or your going to use cub finals on a 1650.....:bigthink: I'm confused.