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J-Mech 04-07-2014 02:48 AM

Finally!! A 582!!
 
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Well, when I decided (about the time that I joined this forum) that I wanted to increase my cub cadet fleet, I wanted a 582. (Or an 1806) Couldn't seem to find one. Well, actually I've wanted one since I was younger. We had a 782 and a 71 growing up, and I always thought that the 582 (a mix of both tractors) would be cool. So, after buying all I have in the last few months, I splurged again. I paid a little more than I normally do, and it needs some work (surprise, surprise) but I think I can handle it. :biggrin2: Carb issues and some locked up steering components. Overall, I'd rate the tractor about a 6 maybe a 7, on a 1-10 scale. Missing the side panels and needs a seat, or I'd give it an 8. (I'll be needing a set of side panels. Can't stand it!) This is to be my work tractor. Current plans are, deck is coming off, AG's on the back, tri-ribs on the front. Sleeve hitch (for now, Cat 0 later). Fix the motor and run it. A 582 was my "holy grail" tractor because I wanted to build a gear drive "worker", and with that frame I can put ANY engine IH or CC ever used in that frame...... especially a D600/D640 Kubota! :biggrin2::biggrin2: (Just have to find one.) She's a dirty pig, and going to get a bath tomorrow. Shows about 200 hrs on the clock, but I'd say it's really about 800. Doesn't seem to have been well used, just not really well maintained. :bash2: Got a pretty decent 44" deck. That was a bonus! Needs some of the dents beat out of it. Honestly I don't understand what people run into with these things to beat the front edge of the deck in so much. :BangPC: It's an EARLY MTD tractor SN#708091, which makes it an '81. This brings the fleet to 10! :beerchug:

Without further ado, the obligatory pics:

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cubcadet 04-07-2014 07:29 AM

Very nice Jonathan.:beer2:

Sam Mac 04-07-2014 08:52 AM

Cool! :beerchug:

jimbob200521 04-07-2014 09:57 AM

I was wondering when we'd get to see pics, nice 582! :beerchug:

Rescue11 04-07-2014 10:18 AM

That is awesome! Glad you finally got your ideal gt. So along with the smoker and cat 0 up grade, would a hydraulic pump with multiple hydraulics be up for review? Looking forward to seeing what you add to the tractor :beer2:

J-Mech 04-07-2014 10:30 AM

Thanks guys!

Yes, hydraulics will be added if/when I get a diesel. I don't think my perfectionism will let me add hydraulics till I get a diesel for it. I don't want to go to the trouble of mounting a pump, just to have to change it when I find a diesel. That project is a future one. I have 4 other tractors to complete first. My 682 decided that it is time for a float last night. Found the motor full of gas and the tank empty!!! :bash2: 185 is in the works, and the 1250DS and 1000 are awaiting rebuilding. So, the smoker will have to wait. :BlahBlah: For what it's worth, the 154 is in the shop so I can get it running and sold, and grandad's 71 is waiting for me to blast and paint it.

PaulS 04-07-2014 10:39 AM

Good looking project tractor. I also wonder what people run into to make the bends and dents one usually finds when buying. Sorry I could not be of more help on the one we talked about. Still have not found a town by that name in PA.

darkminion_17 04-07-2014 10:42 AM

Welcome to the 582 club!!!

Sorry no green jacket...

J-Mech 04-07-2014 11:07 AM

Thanks Paul! I don't know where that tractor resides either. Oh well, it had some issues, but the price sure was good! I'm happy with this find. Pictures really don't do the tractor justice. The paint is really in good shape for the age. It's 33 years old!!

Thanks Lew! I don't even get a jacket if I have 2 red ones? :bigthink:

ACecil 04-07-2014 11:09 AM

Congrats on the 582, Jonathan!

darkminion_17 04-07-2014 11:25 AM

OK you get a red one instead.

I called the guy who was selling the 582.
SOLD IT
To far for me...

J-Mech 04-07-2014 11:32 AM

Thanks Allen! :beerchug:

Good deal Lew! You have my address, so just send the jacket. My name is spelled JONATHAN. LOL! :biggrin2::biggrin2:
Yeah, at that price he should have been able to sell it quick!

Nitro 04-07-2014 11:50 AM

Nice find. One thing these tractors make me wonder: Who drops $3-4k on a tractor and lets it sit outside and rot? For as much as these cost when new, I don't get how they can be in such poor shape sometimes. I'm glad you recued it, it is in a better place now!

sawdustdad 04-07-2014 04:56 PM

Nice, Jonathan!

Cubcrazy 04-07-2014 05:09 PM

Congrats on the nice 582 Jonathan!:beerchug:

J-Mech 04-07-2014 08:20 PM

Thanks Nitro, Frank and Mike! I been walking around it all day here at the shop. I didn't schedule much this week cause I have a lot of little jobs that have piled up here and I want them out. Before the end of the day, I ordered a carb and fuel pump kit and new governor springs for it. Pulled the deck and subframe. This deck (over than the front edge that they PO apparently thought was a bulldozer) is in pretty good shape. Isn't rusted out, and as of yet, no cracks. I'll feel better when when I get a compression check ran on it. I think it may have a leaking intake valve. :bigeyes:

darkminion_17 04-07-2014 08:23 PM

Ditch that briggs and get yourself a mag 18 and be done with it...

Your Jacket is on the way
Jooonnathoon
Did I spell it wrongly:biggrin2:

J-Mech 04-07-2014 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkminion_17 (Post 253144)
Ditch that briggs and get yourself a mag 18 and be done with it...

Your Jacket is on the way
Jooonnathoon
Did I spell it wrongly:biggrin2:

I called a guy about a diesel today. :bigthink: I liked the price, but he was out of them. :angry: I'll run the Briggs for a while.... or until it becomes a "broke and scattered". I'm going to run a compression check tonight. If it comes back with a weak cylinder I may rethink my strategy.

Spelling sounds right. :bigthink: That will look good.... should be able to read it if I hold my arms out to the sides. :biggrin2::biggrin2:

Oak 04-07-2014 10:35 PM

That looks to be in great shape. Congrats!:beerchug:

EricR 04-07-2014 10:45 PM

:beerchug: Nice there Jonathan. That would be cool to put a smoker in a 582!

J-Mech 04-07-2014 11:53 PM

Thanks Todd and Eric!
It is in really good shape. We decided today that it has either had a rough 200 hrs, or an easy 800. What it really lacked was general maintenance. I don't know that it has seen a grease gun..... ever.

I agree, a 582D is the best idea for a build! It will be legend......... wait for it......... ARY!! :bigeyes:

IACubCadet 04-08-2014 12:01 AM

Nice find Jonathan! Looks to be in pretty nice shape from the pictures.

782CC 04-08-2014 12:05 AM

Pretty soon you will have the full lineup of cubs. Sorry to hear about the 682 float.

J-Mech 04-08-2014 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by 782CC (Post 253220)
Pretty soon you will have the full lineup of cubs. Sorry to hear about the 682 float.

Thanks Tim!
I'm pretty close to a full line up! 71, 125, 1250X2 (one for parts), 1000, 582, 682, 1811, 154 & 185 Lo-Boys. I'm feeling pretty good!

Yeah, the float sticking sucked..... I had just changed the oil and only put about 2 hrs on it. Oh well. It happens. I ordered a carb kit and a new fuel pump for it. Not going to take any chances that it was the FP that did the leaking. I don't want to go through that again! That's one good thing about the old singles. If the float sticks, it just makes a puddle! We'll have it back up and going in no time flat! Plus, I now have the choice to run a 44" or a 50" deck on it. :beerchug:


Thanks Ryan! It is probably the nicest one I've bought outside of my 1811.... but I bought it almost 15 years ago! It was a little newer.... :biggrin2:

J-Mech 04-08-2014 02:44 AM

Well boys....... the bad news verdict is in. Compression check revealed a dead cylinder, right side. That was the side I thought was the issue, and TBH, I can't believe it runs. Dropped exhaust seat on it. I'll call my engine machinist and see if he can cut in a new seat without disassembling.... but I'm not hlding my breath. Sooooo..... may get to look for a diesel after all. :BangPC:

Rescue11 04-08-2014 02:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J-Mech (Post 253234)
Well boys....... the bad news verdict is in. Compression check revealed a dead cylinder, right side. That was the side I thought was the issue, and TBH, I can't believe it runs. Dropped exhaust seat on it. I'll call my engine machinist and see if he can cut in a new seat without disassembling.... but I'm not hlding my breath. Sooooo..... may get to look for a diesel after all. :BangPC:

Sometimes a blessing is disguised?! I'm anxious to see a gear jammer with factory looking hydraulics and diesel engine (if that's what you do). Its been an ultimate project IMHO for a cpl yrs now... honestly I'm excited to see someone actually do it. I'll be watching :beerchug:

mickb72 04-08-2014 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkminion_17 (Post 253144)
Ditch that briggs and get yourself a mag 18 and be done with it...

Your Jacket is on the way
Jooonnathoon
Did I spell it wrongly:biggrin2:

That's what i did to mine. Got a mag 18 out of a AYP with a 1" shaft and the briggs pto bolted right to it. The briggs had breather problems,sucked in front seal and a valve spring retainer on the RIGHT side had wore some into the block. Still ran good except for puking oil. I've got 2 more of these bodys waitin for me a diesel find. I wanted that cheap one in PA too, sittin on a couple motors. Mike:beerchug:

spudder 04-08-2014 08:42 AM

Jonathan, I almost feel guilty for buying this tractor for you! Seems it has major issues. Kinda wish I had never called you from the auction. At least you have a solid foundation for a 582 smoker.

Cubcrazy 04-08-2014 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J-Mech (Post 253234)
Well boys....... the bad news verdict is in. Compression check revealed a dead cylinder, right side. That was the side I thought was the issue, and TBH, I can't believe it runs. Dropped exhaust seat on it. I'll call my engine machinist and see if he can cut in a new seat without disassembling.... but I'm not hlding my breath. Sooooo..... may get to look for a diesel after all. :BangPC:

Sorry to hear Jonathan.:angry:

ACecil 04-08-2014 11:57 AM

Sorry to hear about the engine, Jonathan.

J-Mech 04-08-2014 12:47 PM

Thanks guys!

Don't feel bad Tim, I'm not upset with the deal. It's still a really nice tractor and worth fixing.

It may be a blessing....... found a D600 Kubota on C-list. Trying to buy it now.... :HeeHee:

Cubcrazy 04-08-2014 02:03 PM

Hope you get it Jonathan!:beerchug:

ACecil 04-08-2014 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J-Mech (Post 253264)
Thanks guys!

Don't feel bad Tim, I'm not upset with the deal. It's still a really nice tractor and worth fixing.

It may be a blessing....... found a D600 Kubota on C-list. Trying to buy it now.... :HeeHee:

Hope it works out for ya, buddy!

Sam Mac 04-08-2014 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J-Mech (Post 253264)
Thanks guys!

Don't feel bad Tim, I'm not upset with the deal. It's still a really nice tractor and worth fixing.

It may be a blessing....... found a D600 Kubota on C-list. Trying to buy it now.... :HeeHee:

You may want to take a look at one of these
http://www.a1biofuel.net/

Shrewcub 04-08-2014 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam Mac (Post 253283)
You may want to take a look at one of these
http://www.a1biofuel.net/

I may second that! I hope to see smoke this weekend!

:beerchug:

Cubcrazy 04-08-2014 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J-Mech (Post 253264)
Thanks guys!

Don't feel bad Tim, I'm not upset with the deal. It's still a really nice tractor and worth fixing.

It may be a blessing....... found a D600 Kubota on C-list. Trying to buy it now.... :HeeHee:

Did you end up with it Jonathan?:bigthink:

J-Mech 04-09-2014 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cubcrazy (Post 253335)
Did you end up with it Jonathan?:bigthink:

Well, I don't have it in my possession yet...... but I made the deal. Let me get it done, and I'll explain. He lives quite a ways away from me (almost 4 hrs) and I'm afraid before I get to him he'll sell it. Supposed to wait till weekend, but we all know how these c-list deals go. :bash2: I will say, if I get it, it was a really good deal!

zippy1 04-09-2014 01:05 AM

Hey buddy, hope all works out for you:beerchug:
Good talking to you tonight:beer2:

J-Mech 04-09-2014 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zippy1 (Post 253364)
Hey buddy, hope all works out for you:beerchug:
Good talking to you tonight:beer2:

Thanks Todd! Fingers crossed. Next time we talk I'll try to have more time! :beerchug:

Cubcrazy 04-09-2014 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J-Mech (Post 253355)
Well, I don't have it in my possession yet...... but I made the deal. Let me get it done, and I'll explain. He lives quite a ways away from me (almost 4 hrs) and I'm afraid before I get to him he'll sell it. Supposed to wait till weekend, but we all know how these c-list deals go. :bash2: I will say, if I get it, it was a really good deal!

Hope it works out for you Jonathan!:beer2:


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