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jimbob200521 09-25-2014 02:17 PM

Pulling multiple lawn sweepers: how would you do it?
 
Alright, first off, this isn't meant to be a high dollar, super efficient operation. I've got a good amount of lawn that could use sweeping from time to time, and using my single 32" sweeper would take half a day. Since I don't technically NEED to sweep this area (thereby removing the option to go buy a nice shiney new 45" sweeper), I've been toying with the idea of simply picking up another (or two more) 32" cheap sweepers from Craigslist. My dilemma comes up when I start to think about how I could hook them together to be pulled by the same machine for as little cash as possible (again, this is more of a tinkering project than something that I want to spend a lot of time or money on. I just think it'd be cool :biggrin2:). That being said, would pulling two sweepers behind one Cub really be as simple as making a triangle frame and hooking the sweepers together at the corners? If so, would the same be true for THREE sweepers? My worry would be they might not pull evenly. So what do you guys think? How would you tow 2 or 3 sweepers?

http://s26.postimg.org/gmartl9c9/Sweeper_Custom.jpg

Shaner 09-25-2014 02:30 PM

hire a neighbor kid and a rake and tell him to have at it.... lol

normally for tandem setups, the middle implement (in this case the sweeper) would be coupled directly to the tractor just like if you were just pulling the one. then the next two sweepers would be off to each side, behind the middle sweeper. itd pull allot easier, and be cheaper to make brackets for.

jimbob200521 09-25-2014 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaner (Post 288343)
hire a neighbor kid and a rake and tell him to have at it.... lol

normally for tandem setups, the middle implement (in this case the sweeper) would be coupled directly to the tractor just like if you were just pulling the one. then the next two sweepers would be off to each side, behind the middle sweeper. itd pull allot easier, and be cheaper to make brackets for.

So, in other words:

http://s26.postimg.org/8m12iuhs9/Sweeper_2_Custom.jpg

olds45512 09-25-2014 03:33 PM

I think the first design would be best but you'd need to have the 2 sweeper hooked to each other somehow so they moved as one otherwise you'll never be able to back them up to dump them

Berwil 09-25-2014 03:37 PM

I would setup a triple like shaner said. If I were to do a double, I'd space them so the distance between the brushes was ~6" less than the width of the sweeper. This way you don't leave a narrow unswept strip and waste a pass to come back for it. I also think for this to work well you would need 2 similar sized sweepers and a rear crossbar to connect them like olds was saying.

Bill

J-Mech 09-25-2014 03:44 PM

You can't hook Agri-Fabs up like that. Look at the hitch design. When mounted to the tractor, there is (supposed) to be a spacer in the hitch. The tongue actually pics up on the tractor. In other words, when you hook up, you have to press the tongue down to hook it up. This lifts the sweepers bag off the ground. If the hitch you make to pull it isn't heavy enough to push down on the tongue, then it's hitch will just pop up in the air and the bag will be on the ground. The tandem hitch will have to be very heavy, and have wheels on it. Then it would work.

jimbob200521 09-25-2014 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by olds45512 (Post 288359)
I think the first design would be best but you'd need to have the 2 sweeper hooked to each other somehow so they moved as one otherwise you'll never be able to back them up to dump them

The one good thing about my dump site is I shouldn't ever have to back up to it. It's basically a burn pile I can circle around. That, or with this setup, I'd bring a trailer with me and pull up next to that whenever I needed to dump. Then I'd just unhook the catch bags and dump them.

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Originally Posted by Berwil (Post 288362)
I would setup a triple like shaner said. If I were to do a double, I'd space them so the distance between the brushes was ~6" less than the width of the sweeper. This way you don't leave a narrow unswept strip and waste a pass to come back for it. I also think for this to work well you would need 2 similar sized sweepers and a rear crossbar to connect them like olds was saying.

Bill

Olds & Berwill: as far as linking the two/three sweepers together so they move as one, I had wondered about that as I wasn't sure what would keep them moving as one if say one hit a thicker patch of grass/debris and the other didn't. I was thinking if one slowed down, it might pull unevenly but the cross bar might help that. I'm thinking I'm going to start with a 2 sweeper setup and see how that goes. I found one locally for a good price and called the guy, waiting on a call back :biggrin2:

olds45512 09-25-2014 04:06 PM

I didn't mean to hook the wheels together, I meant hook the frames together so when you back up they go the same direction and not turn whatever way they want.

jimbob200521 09-25-2014 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by olds45512 (Post 288374)
I didn't mean to hook the wheels together, I meant hook the frames together so when you back up they go the same direction and not turn whatever way they want.

That's what I was talking about, as well. I was thinking something simple like a bar across the front housing of the sweeper. Use your imagination, but I was thinking about placing a bar like this (albeit not so big/long):

http://s26.postimg.org/kk2mwqljd/38_..._Sweeper_1.jpg

I also found these two other pics. One looks like a simple steel frame with links between the front sweepers to keep them acting "as one". The other pic is hard to see the setup in, but I think it's interesting that both these designs show 2 sweepers up front, and one trailing behind. Hmm...:bigthink:

http://s26.postimg.org/p7dqvmf7t/RT350_10271_600.jpg

http://s26.postimg.org/q8dzkqw7d/136_HTCH1.jpg

darkminion_17 09-25-2014 04:42 PM

A hand held leaf blower mounted red green style would do the job, then when you get a big enough row, go to the sweeper.

Berwil 09-25-2014 05:03 PM

How about a "knock down" on the deck chute to keep the grass within 24", then mount the sweeper like a side car on the discharge side. Mow and sweep at the same time. :beerchug:

Bill

J-Mech 09-25-2014 05:03 PM

Did you guys see post #6? Just wondering......

darkminion_17 09-25-2014 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by J-Mech (Post 288367)
You can't hook Agri-Fabs up like that. Look at the hitch design. When mounted to the tractor, there is (supposed) to be a spacer in the hitch. The tongue actually pics up on the tractor. In other words, when you hook up, you have to press the tongue down to hook it up. This lifts the sweepers bag off the ground. If the hitch you make to pull it isn't heavy enough to push down on the tongue, then it's hitch will just pop up in the air and the bag will be on the ground. The tandem hitch will have to be very heavy, and have wheels on it. Then it would work.

That has nothing to do with my Red Green alternative. ...:biggrin2:

Sam Mac 09-25-2014 06:12 PM

Just get AC to sweep the lawn, he loves running his sweeper. :biggrin2:

It will be a cold day in H--L before I sweep my lawn. God wanted those clippings where they are so I'm gonna leave them. :biggrin2::beerchug:

Shrewcub 09-25-2014 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by darkminion_17 (Post 288381)
A hand held leaf blower mounted red green style would do the job, then when you get a big enough row, go to the sweeper.

I like it! :beerchug:

I may attempt this when the leaves begin to fall. Got 4 rolls of "the handymans secret weapon", I think I can make it happen. :biggrin2:

darkminion_17 09-25-2014 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Shrewcub (Post 288394)
I like it! :beerchug:

I may attempt this when the leaves begin to fall. Got 4 rolls of "the handymans secret weapon", I think I can make it happen. :biggrin2:

A leaf blower on wheels does the same thing,works for grass too.

Sam Mac 09-25-2014 07:24 PM

Just my 2 cents, I cut it and where it lands is where it stays. Granted it does not look like a golf course green but I don't care. :biggrin2: :beerchug:

Berwil 09-25-2014 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by J-Mech (Post 288384)
Did you guys see post #6? Just wondering......

Of course, mine is the same way, just need a caster under the rear of the bag to support the weight. We call that "low hangin fruit". LoL :biggrin2:

Bill

J-Mech 09-25-2014 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Berwil (Post 288404)
Of course, mine is the same way, just need a caster under the rear of the bag to support the weight. We call that "low hangin fruit". LoL :biggrin2:

Bill

Even if it had a caster under the bag it wouldn't work. Unless you mounted the caster to the frame and not the bag. Then it would.

jimbob200521 09-25-2014 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by J-Mech (Post 288384)
Did you guys see post #6? Just wondering......

Actually...no I didn't, not until you pointed it out. You posted at almost the exact minute I did so I didn't even think to scroll above my post to read responses :beerchug:

That being said, I see what you're saying. It shouldn't be too hard to make an adjustment to the design to accommodate what you said. But, while it may may be a fairly simple solution (add weight to the central hitch and a caster or two to keep it off the ground), it will cost more money. I'll see if I can think of something, hmm...there's go to be a simpler way to make this work :bigthink:

J-Mech 09-25-2014 09:36 PM

If you incorporated the tandem hitch into the frame of the first two, and let the rear one "hitched" up then that would work. Only problem is, it will be a bear to store. I suppose you can find a way to make it easily detachable.

I have to say, I'm with Sam. I really think this is more trouble than it's worth.

Oh, BTW.... I LOVE your "cad" drawings above! Wish I had a program that I could do that with.:BlahBlah:

Berwil 09-25-2014 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by J-Mech (Post 288406)
Even if it had a caster under the bag it wouldn't work. Unless you mounted the caster to the frame and not the bag. Then it would.

My sweeper has a frame tube that runs along the back bottom edge of the bag, so that is what I was referring to. I guess not all have that.

I do agree about the storage concern. If kept together it will take a garage bay to store, even apart will be half a bay. Then there's the assembly, disassembly every time, tweaking the setup when one is misadjusted, etc. not trying to rain on your parade, but I think I would upgrade to 1 of a larger size and enjoy the seat time. :beerchug:

Bill

Shaner 09-25-2014 10:56 PM

Go to northern tool and buy an estate rake. Then windrow your yard, and sweep up the windrows.

J-Mech 09-25-2014 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaner (Post 288425)
Go to northern tool and buy an estate rake. Then windrow your yard, and sweep up the windrows.

With one of these!!! LOL!

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Takes care of a lot of issues! More area to store grass, so you don't have to dump as often..... you already have the sweeper. :bigthink:

jimbob200521 09-26-2014 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by J-Mech (Post 288418)
If you incorporated the tandem hitch into the frame of the first two, and let the rear one "hitched" up then that would work. Only problem is, it will be a bear to store. I suppose you can find a way to make it easily detachable.

I have to say, I'm with Sam. I really think this is more trouble than it's worth.

Oh, BTW.... I LOVE your "cad" drawings above! Wish I had a program that I could do that with.:BlahBlah:

lmao thanks! Just so you know, you have the exact same program on your computer I used to make those "drawings" with. Just a few minutes in Paint and violla: you have some rudimentary drawings :biggrin2:

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Originally Posted by J-Mech (Post 288430)
With one of these!!! LOL!

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Takes care of a lot of issues! More area to store grass, so you don't have to dump as often..... you already have the sweeper. :bigthink:

That was my other thought; find a way to increase the carrying capacity of the lawn sweeper. Some areas I want to do I can't even make a full round without getting a full load. I need (ok, well, let's face it, WANT :biggrin2:) a way to pick these big "windrows" of grass without stopping every five feet to dump.

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Originally Posted by Berwil (Post 288424)
My sweeper has a frame tube that runs along the back bottom edge of the bag, so that is what I was referring to. I guess not all have that.

I do agree about the storage concern. If kept together it will take a garage bay to store, even apart will be half a bay. Then there's the assembly, disassembly every time, tweaking the setup when one is misadjusted, etc. not trying to rain on your parade, but I think I would upgrade to 1 of a larger size and enjoy the seat time. :beerchug:

Bill

Storage wouldn't be a HUGE concern; I'd got a little shed out back, as long as I could reasonably remove the sweepers from the frame, I'm sure I could store it in there, especially if it's only two sweepers.

cubcadet 09-26-2014 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by darkminion_17 (Post 288381)
A hand held leaf blower mounted red green style would do the job, then when you get a big enough row, go to the sweeper.

:biggrin2:


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