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K301 Tach
I wasn't sure if this needed to be in the 'General' talk or the 'Engine' forum. So, feel free to move this post where you feel it should be. But I was surfing through Ebay last night and came across a 1250 that had a tach in place of what was the hourmeter. I thought that was pretty cool. So I emailed the seller and asked him if he put that tach in and where he got it. He said he got it from Kirkengines.com. I have heard about this guy a time or two on this forum. But his site is currently down for maintenance. So, my question is this....does anyone know where he gets those tachs from? I don't see him making them....but then again he could be.
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Same here.
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I'd buy one also.
I wish I'd have bought one back when he was still selling/had them. It was a 'future plan' item. |
Maybe we can try and get one of our sponsors to contact Kirkengines.com with hopes that they'd buy a contract of 100 from his supplier. There's already four of us just today that would pick one up. :beer2::beerchug:
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I already tried to get David to give up his source. He aint saying...:Sad:
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Put me in line for at least one !!
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Me six, x 3.
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Sorry guys. We'd have to get David Kirk to order more....I'd imagine we'd need atleast 50 guys to get David to make it happen.
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IIRC, David said his source required a 100 minimum unit order.
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I'll take 4.We are getting closer :bigthink:
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I know I'd be up for one maybe three
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I think I remember reading somewhere they he was charging $80 shipped for on tach....its alittle pricey. You might change your mind on quanity if the price really was $80 shipped. IF we could get him to order them.
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Shoot man, what doesn't cost a Benjamin these days....
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Id still be in it for at least one at that price. Maybe two
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When i was a kid I ran Jr dragster and they all had single cylinder engines and they all had tachs, there readily available if you look up Jr dragster tach.
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The problem is, the last time I searched, was coming up with theses specs:
* Single cylinder application * 2" hole Diameter mounting * 0-4000 RPM Range * Analog type * 12VDC I could not find anything that met all those specs. :angry: |
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I saw these on ebay.
http://tinyurl.com/n7q8q2z and saw these from Walmart. http://tinyurl.com/lo7ofb8 |
You notice that in Dave Kirk’s,” Building a Hot-Rod Kohler K301”;
http://www.kirkengines.com/downloads...ohlerPartI.pdf On the bottom of page 11, “This shows the right side of the engine where the Mercury outboard voltage regulator replaces the stock item. This contains the tach driver circuitry for the instrument panelmounted Datcon tachometer.” I believe that different tachs are triggered by different means. Some like a timing light, “inductive tachs” may be listed as being for 2,4,6 or 8 cylinder engines but may, ( Please correct me if I'm wrong here) be used in other cylinder configurations, like single cylinder, as long as it is being triggered from the proper source. There’s this one, http://www.ebay.com/itm/VDO-Cockpit-...-/251504700247 don’t know how these are triggered. And from Datcon; http://www.datcon.com/en-US/Products...chometers.aspx part way down on the page, P/N 106461. |
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Does anyone know of someone on this site that has a Dave Kirk Tach? Was there any part numbers on the tach and voltage regulator? I found a marine tach that looks just like Dave Kirks.....just unsure of the voltage regulator and any other parts he added. anyone?
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After some studying.....I think may have found a Tach that'll work with the Quietline series of tractors and newer due to the Stator aka alternator. A few things I need to iron out yet, though. Another quick question....the K301aqs engine use's points as the firing system to the spark plug. But those points are fired off the timing of the cam. So, it doesn't have a wasted spark? Am I accurate to assume this? |
The "firing" for the ignition is the same on ALL the K series engines.
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Couldn't a guy wire up a generic tach that would register on our Cubs and then take the face off and print/install a new label so it "reads" correctly? For example (accurate numbers are not about to be recited), a tach for a V6 would read 1/3 of what our engines are actually at. So, take the face off, print a new label that's adjusted for the 1/3 difference, and violla; a single cylinder tach. K.I.S.S., right? :bigthink:
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This one is supposed to work for a 1 to 10 cylinder, it's 2 1/16" and $56.99 with free shipping.
Attachment 64704 I ordered this one to see if it works on our cubs. http://www.ebay.com/itm/291162356660...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT I also ordered a couple of really inexpensive tachs that I am going to see if I can modify them to work on a one cylinder engine with a coil, like on a Kohler. All that's needed, is to change a resister value for the pulse signal. Might take a while, but I'll let you all know how it works out. If it does work, it would be only $25 or $30 for a tach. I had gotten one of those digitals, like the Tiny Tach, but I don't like it. Just seems to lag behind the RPM's. |
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It looks promising....I wish they had one like that down to 4,000rpm. Let me know how it works for you. |
I would have liked if it was 4000 too, but sometimes you have to take what you can get. I should be getting it soon, then I'll post if it works as soon as I get to try it. I'm still searching for others.:biggrin2:
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According to the internet, where All Things Are True, you need a universal Diesel marine tachometer, as do I. Found this: http://www.wheelhorseforum.com/topic...r-onan-kohler/
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I dont know if this may be of some use but I've wondered about tring it on my offroaf mower toy. http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000EVYHKY?vs=1 along with this http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B001QU...XRX2HTBE87TAKZ
Sorry if the links didn't come up click able I'm posting from my phone and it won't let me insert them correctly |
http://equus.com/Product/Detail/7988...7-7B0DD14DBE08 this may work also. Tring to locate one in 4000 rpm with a small enough diameter
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