1650 engine cranks slowly or not at all
 

A fully charged battery will not roll my 341 over fast enough to start and sometimes not at all. As little as a month ago she fired right up with no problem now won't start. Any ideas on what to look at?:bash2:

PTO stuck on?

I wonder if the little spring broke on the compression release.

What was the temps a month ago compared to now?

If it 's kicking back on the starter, you may want to adjust the points to re-set your timing.

If its just turning slow or sometimes clicking check the ground wires.

Ditto. That is a common issue.

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Sounds to me like it has dirty connections, or like the guys have said, BAD ground connections.

thanks for all the tips. Temps here have been about the same for the last month. Pto is not stuck on. I'm thinking I'll check the grounds first as the engine ran fine last time I used it. Thanks again.

I believe this is a common issue with these older engines when the Temps drop. My family is the orig owner of our 126 and every winter the sucker is a bear to crank unless you keep it on the batter maintainer. The wiring harness was just replaced so I know it's not that....just the nature of the beast I reckon

The only one I have problems in the winter time is the one with the hydro trans.

AND....if you are using HyTran, it is not really that bad.

:IH Trusted Hand:

I respectfully disagree. All mine start just fine. I think it has more to do with correct tuning.


That said, some engines are just more cold natured than others. There can be many reasons for that but for this conversation lets just say that there are tolerances that things are built with, and it is a range. One cam may be more advanced than another and so on.... It's just how it goes with mass produced parts.

It is the only oil I use in my 149. Dad's 1450 and 2182 are just as bad and they have HyTran in them too.

Excellent point as well! :beerchug: I never gave that a thought.

Found the problem, well two actually
 

Recharged the battery and tried it again. Started to crank then made a loud grinding noise so I took the side panel off and tried it again while watching the starter. Starter motor was loose and pulling away from the solenoid. Pushed it back and tightened her up. Cranked like mad but still wouldn't start. That was the second problem one I'm sure none of you guys have ever had. It was out of gas. Now I have to figure out how to fix a leak around the fuel shutoff valve.:bigthink:

Well doesn't that make you feel "special?":biggrin2:
I'm thinking the fuel issue has happened more times than you think.:bigeyes:

Guilty as charged.

And also safety switches (like the seat, or the brake isnt down).

Its kinda like forgetting to 'plug it in' when the TV doesnt work.

When I bought my 108 I drove it on the trailer and drove it off the trailer but a few hours later I couldn't get it to do anything, turns out that my son was playing on it and must have engaged the PTO and since I had never owned a tractor with a safety switch on the PTO before I didn't think to check it and it took about 2 hours to figure out.:biggrin2: this is no longer an issue because when I rewire tractors for myself I always remove the safety switches.

I've been bitten by the PTO switch a time or two.
Do like to keep the clutch/brake safety switch, especially on a hydro.
That is really a good idea.
The rest is a pain in the seat:biggrin2:

We have a friend who bought a new rider and the guys who sold it to him talked him into a maintenance contract. Brand new mower won't start and he's hopping mad. The guy comes out ('way out) and puts some gas in it. After the third time the guy tells Kenneth, "Sir, I can't come out any more on this." Kenneth, again hopping mad, "I have a contract!" The service man, "You'll have to put your own gas in it, sir!"