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682 CCC Restoration
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It was minus 24 degrees this morning at 6am -- and 2 degrees most of today. Not originally intending to post any of this (I guess prodded by SS5150), this thread is admittedly pic deficient.
After visiting yeeter a couple of times last year to see his nice Cub 782 project in person (and learn a few things from him), I was inspired to start a "Red" project. At the same time in October, a friend from Torrington CT was attending the Maryland International Harvester Collectors Club Chapter #39 Auction. I ended up high bidder on an unrestored, very early January 1982 CCC 682 with a 44” deck (he on 4 other machines). Very solid but with quite a bit of surface rust. This machine was delivered to the IH Dealer Farmers Supply Company in Westminster, MD. Although the frame rails were packed (from the fan blade to the rear vent) with rich, Maryland soil, it was well taken care of. In the mid 1980’s, the KT 17 was replaced with a Series II. Oil leaked from non-existent gaskets from the breather covers. With the exception of the steering wheel cap, the build contains IH stamped parts and the cast iron rear housing. Cleaned the Nastylene from the tank and replaced fried plastic connectors beneath the dash. Removed the tins, cleaned up the engine and finished with a light coat of Satin Black Hi-Temp Engine Enamel. Replaced: Fuel Pump Fuel Lines Rebuilt carburetor All filters Hytran Ultra & Gasket New Aggressive Sneakers New Choke Cable New Points New Mike Lamar Spark Plug Wires & Autolite 26’s New Solenoid New PTO, Key and Safety Switches New Ball Joints New Roll Pin Split Loom tubing Remaining Issue: Leaking Cork Pump gasket will be replaced in the Spring Can't wait to get it finished and all back together so I can fire it up. Too cold to work on it though... |
Looking good so far.:beerchug:
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Looks good!
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I was hoping you'd share some pics! Looks really good. Hoping this summer I can tear down one of my 782s & go through it.....lots going on in life though. We'll see.
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682 looks good thus far:beerchug:
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The Red is mesmerizing!! Nice job and keep up the good work!:biggrin2::IH Trusted Hand:
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Looks good there ccguy, thanks for sharing.:beerchug:
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Nice, i like red! Mike:beerchug:
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Nice, you got a purty tractor ! :clap:Nice job
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Very nice. I like the red. Keep the pictures coming.
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That looks awesome! Wish I could've got to that IH auction, still hearing from folks of the great deals there, it was only 20 miles from where I live but I was far away from home at the time.
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ccguy,
Its looking great... I really like the red tractors.. I used to go to the IH dealer with dad in the early 80's... they kept a showroom full of Cub Cadets.. I still remember when they went red... I fell in love! I used to beg dad for a "Red" cub... he said we had to wear the yellow 1450 out first! Little did I know it we could never wear the 1450 out.. Mom still uses it weekly!! A good friend and neighbor bought a new 782 in 1980.. I sat on it at the IH dealer in the showroom... we now own that very tractor! As always your work and attention to detail is second to none! Keep us posted! :beerchug: :American Flag 1: |
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Thanks gentlemen for the kind comments.
I would have loved to visit an IH dealer in their heyday. Between equipment of all sizes, implements, parts, service, lubrication, trucks and trailers, refrigerators and freezers, I'll bet they were a very busy place in town. Drained the old Hytran and removed the filter. This machine with a SLOW leak at the pump gasket -- fluid was clear but only drained +2 quarts. Always change the trans fluid on a new-to-you machine. New CaseIH gasket, back-strike plate holes, Ultra Gray around the bottom three holes/bolts (always give me problems) and done. Will leave the housing empty of fluid until after I change the cork gasket - which is next (waiting for a warm weekend). Debating of whether to replace the rag disks...no tears or cracks but they are 35 years old. |
It would be hard to decide on the rag joints... but I sure would be tempted to change them while I was there... but then again I'm not convinced that the "new" rubber is of the same quality that is was 30 to 40 years ago.. seems most of the modern rubber parts I get deteriorate quickly nowdays.
Looking good as always! What kind of rear tires are those? I really like the looks of them! :beerchug: |
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Hey CCguy, what kind of axles are in there? Coarse or fine spline, looks like it has the thicker carrier. Mike
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Course splines. Tractor was assembled 1st week of January, 1982.
That's what is so crazy about these rag joints...they looked like they were dipped in rubber. Granted they are all twisted but I'm thinking what if the new ones don't hold up and don't last more than a few years...and these I've thrown away! I don't know... I wanted an aggressive tire for winter and Ags would create lawn havoc with all the wet weather we have up here. I went with Carlisle All Trails (amazon @ $93. with free shipping!). Made in USA, 4 ply and very aggressive. I've got 25 lbs. in them and when the warm weather gets here, I'll bring them down to 15. They were pancaked in transit so I don't want to break the beads. They will flatten out when they get to the correct pressure. Hard to install even with vegetable oil. Excellent ratings and perfect for rough terrain or service where it's carrying a lot of weight. I looked at Kenda K502's Terra Tracs which were much less expensive but I went American. |
Tires look great.. kind of gives it a distinct look.. They should give good traction in all kind of different conditions.. I'd load them with fluid and drop them to about 10 psi... It makes a huge difference with traction even just mowing grass.. We found out years ago that loaded tires are much more kind to the turf. :beerchug:
THANK YOU FOR GOING USA!! :American Flag 1: |
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"Splittin" the Tractor
The beauty of the 682 is its simplicity and ease of working on it without having to circumnavigate all the plumbing of a machine with hydraulics (I know, forget winter plowing...). Now, had I known that I had a small (sneaky) leak with the cork gasket on the pump, I would have addressed that before all the painting and tin work. So, with the Hytran fluid drained, the seat, fenders and tunnel cover removed, next came the battery holder, wiring and solenoid. Detached the brake spring, brake return linkage, speed control rod and brake linkage with the two cotter pins. When attempting this, I used a safety strap (to strap the heavy housing to the jack to keep it on the jack and from damage - to me and it) jack stands (for the frame) and a floor jack to help in removing the transaxle. I removed the 4 sets of bolts/washers/nuts from the flexible (rag) joint connecting the drive shaft to pump. Next was removing the 6 hex bolts attaching the transmission housing to the frame. Using the jack, I slid the transmission/axle out through rear of frame. Lastly, loosened/detached both ends of the transmission suction tube and then removed the 4 hex bolts that attach the pump to the case. In prepping the new gasket, I used carb cleaner to clean everything up and dry it off. I also had access to cleaning all the rest of the crud off from around the pump and the front of the transaxle. Then I broke all the rules and used Permatex Ultra Gray for hopefully, added longevity. My Expansion plug was leaking (even without fluid inside the case when it was apart!) so I pried the plug out with a mini screwdriver, cleaned off the old sealant and used a little Ultra Gray to reseal. Replaced the rag joints and back together she went. Big thanks to yeeter, Roland, Gerry Ide and Charlie Proctor. Now I just hope it works! |
Looks like top notch work to me!! Should work great! :beerchug::beerchug:
I agree... the tractors without hydraulics sure are easier!! :biggrin2: |
I like the tires.
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Finishing Up
With many members raving about HVLP Spray systems, I purchased an inexpensive one -- but stayed with Valspar Equipment & Implement paint (Qt.) and experienced nice results with less over spray and noxious fumes than using rattle cans. Finishing up the fender, I first started with a 8/4/1 Mix (Paint/Naphtha/Hardener) but that resulted in lots of orange peel. I wet sanded it out then tried a 8/5/1 Mix and it resulted in a glass like finish with a nice, wet look. I went with a lighter coat to avoid runs that plague a thinner mix. I plan to repaint the tins at a later date that were Valspar rattle canned. (Their enamel is the exact same shade as their spray) Tomorrow night after work I'll reinstall the rear lights. Then it's on to the mower deck and mule drive. |
Looking good! Nice work:beerchug:
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Looks very sharp! You did a great job painting it! I rarely measure when I top coat. Unless its urethane and I want a satin finish. More reducer = shinery finish, more hardner = harder paint and sets up quicker.
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As always your work looks great!! :beerchug:
Way back in the day when dad used to spray enamel his last coat was half paint and half thinner... it really made that enamel flow out and gave a glass smooth shiny finish! keep up the great work and keep the pics coming!!:beerchug: |
Very nice, great shine:beerchug:
Was it mentioned earlier the make of those tires??? Gotsta know:bigthink: |
Looks good, nice job.:beerchug:
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Hey. That is a sharp looking tractor! Very nice!
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Finale
Thanks Terry C, Brian, Tim, Jay and Dirty Steve! It's my maiden attempt with a spray gun...30 minutes to prep, 5 minutes to coat and 60 minutes to clean up. I used a Fuji 2203G Semi-PRO 2 - Gravity Feed Unit. (Made in Canada) Jay - That's what I learned very quickly - more thinner=more flow, so I went extremely light on the vertical sections to prevent runs. Love Valspar paint/hardener, reasonably priced and great quality. Probably only have $12. or so in paint/hardener and thinner on the fender...I would say it's less expensive than rattle cans...once you purchase the gun/compressor/hose. Way better results. The best part is I don't have to buff anything out. Done. zippy1 - They are Carlisle All Trails 4-Ply on the back (Made in US). Could not find my size for the fronts. As you all know, it's pretty cool to take a discarded, abandoned or left-for-dead piece of equipment, you put your hours into it and make it function again, look good and then use it to work for you. |
All I can say is POTW! :beerchug:
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that is a sweet tractor!
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I agree with Sam!!! POTW for sure!!:beerchug:
I have a 782 that is in need of a slick paint job like that!! If want to do another one i'll ship it to you!!! :biggrin2::biggrin2: It's a great day when the paint lays out like it should and you don't have to "fix" anything!! :IH Trusted Hand::IH Trusted Hand: |
End result looks very good, congrats:beerchug:
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Thanks gentlemen. Sam's been an inspiration from Day 1.
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