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DieselDoctor 07-04-2016 11:46 PM

Newbie and a 782D
 
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Having found a diesel Cub and then finding this forum, I jumped in the deep end and started a total restoration. I've done several farm tractors and a couple of antique tractor trailer rigs, but this is my first Cub. I plan on doing the gear reduction starter and the glow plug relay updates as well as a steering column rebuild. Everything else will get cleaned inspected and painted with repairs as needed. I've seen some mighty purty tractors on here, I hope I can keep up my end! Here's where I'm at so far ----

Terry C 07-05-2016 12:02 AM

Let the fun begin!!

ACecil 07-05-2016 12:38 PM

Nice 782D! Good luck with your restoration.

CubDieselFan 07-05-2016 07:44 PM

Looks like you have started out good. Looking forward to your progress pic's. Welcome to Only Cub Cadets.

DieselDoctor 07-13-2016 01:45 AM

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Well- a little progress has been made. The fuel tank and radiator have been cleaned and all the black color parts have been bead blasted and repainted. One color down and three to go, Kubota blue, and IH red and white. My wife has been "impressed" that either UPS or FedEx has been to the house every day last week delivering restoration parts. The fun continues!

DieselDoctor 07-13-2016 01:54 AM

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Next up will be to pull the rear axle from the frame and perform the clean, service and repaint sequence. Yes it's black, and the gun has been cleaned and put away too. Am I the only one that always forgets at least one part that needed to be painted a certain color when you thought you were done?

ACecil 07-13-2016 11:45 AM

You've been busy! Thanks for the update and pics.

DieselDoctor 07-16-2016 09:49 PM

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Saturday seems to be the day I get the most time in my shop and today's project was to get the engine back in the sub-frame and hang all the rebuilt accessories. Valves have been adjusted and new glow plugs installed. It got a couple of coats of genuine Kubota blue paint to freshen the look. All new hoses for coolant and fuel. Still looking for a 7/8 " heater hose for the lower radiator hose. PTO and fan shaft have new bearings and a gear reduction starter installed. Radiator has been boiled and pressure tested. No turbo ---- YET! Can't wait to get this thing back together and make some smoke! Here's a couple shots of the "power pod"

RedOnes 07-16-2016 10:05 PM

wow , looks awesome ..I`m not familiar with diesels so looking forward to seeing the smoke :beerchug:
... and cant wait for the red paint also.. :biggrin2:

ACecil 07-16-2016 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DieselDoctor (Post 383558)
Saturday seems to be the day I get the most time in my shop and today's project was to get the engine back in the sub-frame and hang all the rebuilt accessories. Valves have been adjusted and new glow plugs installed. It got a couple of coats of genuine Kubota blue paint to freshen the look. All new hoses for coolant and fuel. Still looking for a 7/8 " heater hose for the lower radiator hose. PTO and fan shaft have new bearings and a gear reduction starter installed. Radiator has been boiled and pressure tested. No turbo ---- YET! Can't wait to get this thing back together and make some smoke! Here's a couple shots of the "power pod"

That is sharp!

FrankF3 07-16-2016 11:22 PM

Looks great! Keep the pictures coming. Where did you find the radiator hoses?

Oak 07-16-2016 11:37 PM

Frank, I'm thinking some people are using a Kubota RTV(Utility Vehicle)hose and cutting it but I can't remember where I saw that.:bash2:

DieselDoctor 07-17-2016 01:03 AM

Here's what I used after finding this information in the engine section of this forum.

Upper radiator hose, Cub part# IH-1286631-C1 / 735-3020
suitable replacement: Kubota part# K7311-85150, made for the Kubota RTV utility vehicles.

The 7311-85150 hose has a 3" long "bell" section at the radiator end of the hose to accommodate a bigger radiator outlet. You just cut this bigger end off and the remaining piece is a perfect fit.
I bought mine from Kubota Parts Depot for $22.55 plus shipping. As for the lower hose, so far discussion has been to use 7/8" heater hose, but it is hard to locate. I am toying with the idea of having heavy wall tubing bent and use straight rubber hose to couple at each end. I may also try to find pre-bent shapes and weld them together. I've built headers for performance cars and this would be a similar process. If I do, I'll post pictures and list the components. Stan

darkminion_17 07-17-2016 11:39 AM

what kind of prep for paint did you do on the engine?
I will be pulling mine soon and I may paint it,not sure...

cubcadet 07-17-2016 11:46 AM

Looking good!

Oak 07-17-2016 11:48 AM

Looking good!

DieselDoctor 07-17-2016 12:21 PM

DarkMinion - after removing the D600 from the tractor and sub-frame, I sealed all the openings and thoroughly hot water pressure washed the entire motor. Next step was to use a small wire brush in a drill to knock off any peeling paint and loose scale that I could reach without tear-down. After another quick rinse and blow dry, I painted the engine using genuine Kubota paint purchased on E-bay. $11.99 a can, and didn't use half the can. The paint covers exceptionally well and drys quickly with a nice shine.

Bugjunkie66 07-17-2016 01:23 PM

Great job on the engine, looks great in fresh paint!
What are your plans for the wiring harness? I'm working on an 882D now and the wires are brittle and cracked. My thought was to replace each one with an identical new wire of the same gage and color. Its going to be a long haul!
I'll enjoy seeing your new updates as you progress.

Rmowl 07-17-2016 01:34 PM

Your doing a great job, that's a cool tractor! FYI I just finished up a D650 in a kubota tractor and got parts from kumar bros, great customer service. Looking forward to seeing it all wrapped up!

Oak 07-17-2016 04:29 PM

Here are a few options.

I would check with Mike first. His stuff is top notch.
http://www.onlycubcadets.net/forum/s...ad.php?t=34457

More options.
http://www.porchelectric.com/ihcub.html

http://www.cngcoinc.com/pages/custom.../Product/51439

Dart1917 07-17-2016 07:07 PM

7/8 coolant hose-
Catalog number 5285k133
http://www.mcmaster.com/#general-purpose-hose/=13brblz

ccguy 07-17-2016 07:11 PM

Very nice work DieselDoctor! Can't wait for the final reveal. It'll be a beauty!

DieselDoctor 07-17-2016 08:33 PM

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There was some discussion earlier in this thread about the substitute upper radiator hose, Kubota part# K7311-85150, that needs to be modified. I took my hose back off and snapped a couple of pics so everyone can understand what needs to be done.

longislandcubs 07-17-2016 08:35 PM

Welcome to the forum and congrats on the tractor. This place is age eat source of information and everyone is eager to help! Good luck.

DieselDoctor 07-17-2016 08:53 PM

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After stripping the frame to bare bones, I found I have an issue with the implement lift. In the picture you see the cross shaft in the frame and two arms, one offset and the other J shaped. This is the attachment point for the rod end of the lift cylinder. My question is the the arm that is J shaped appears to have a place where it can be bolted to the other arm, and there also is a roll pin hole in the J arm but it is seized to the shaft. Should it be free to rotate on the shaft, be bolted together or pinned? I've applied a little heat and have managed to move the J arm a little, but it will need to be pressed apart to get it to move freely if it is supposed to.

DieselDoctor 07-17-2016 09:02 PM

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OK - now what!

J-Mech 07-17-2016 09:06 PM

Yes, it should rotate independent. It is the "float". A bolt can be installed to give it down pressure, although, I'm not sure why anyone would want to, and the rarely do, as you find that the cylinder is strong enough to tear things up or bend them. They are no fun to free when they are stuck.

Go buy some Kroil and let it do it's thing. Still may not be able to free it up. Good luck.

DieselDoctor 07-17-2016 09:18 PM

BugJunkie - my wiring harness is in exceptionally good shape except for a hacked area bypassing the safety circuits of the PTO switch. Using a wiring diagram I found on-line, I cut out the cobbed up sections, and soldered in new wires of the proper gauge and color. It's a straight forward repair and pretty simple circuits. I think I would repair your harness if it isn't totally destroyed.

jaynjeep 07-17-2016 11:13 PM

That 782D is gonna be SWEET!!

Please keep the pictures coming!!

WE LIKE PICTURES!!:beerchug:

:American Flag 1:

Cub Cadet 123 07-17-2016 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jaynjeep (Post 383714)
That 782D is gonna be SWEET!!

Please keep the pictures coming!!

WE LIKE PICTURES!!:beerchug:

:American Flag 1:

Agreed! Going to be a real power house with that diesel in it, too.

Cub Cadet 123

FrankF3 07-18-2016 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DieselDoctor (Post 383685)
There was some discussion earlier in this thread about the substitute upper radiator hose, Kubota part# K7311-85150, that needs to be modified. I took my hose back off and snapped a couple of pics so everyone can understand what needs to be done.

Thanks for the pictures and further explanation. This makes it perfectly clear. On the implement shaft use Kroil like suggested or PBlaster to free it up. On my 782D, I drilled a small hole in the center of the "outer shaft" then used a needle-type grease fitting until I had grease coming out both sides to try and keep it freed up,

DieselDoctor 07-19-2016 01:43 AM

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Thanks for the suggestions on dealing with the implement shaft. I am a believer in the magic powers of both Kroil and PB Blaster, but I am not always a patient man. When it comes to cautiously heating, tapping, apply oil and repeating the process until the part is free again, I usually get carried away with the tapping part. So knowing my limits, I took the whole frame to work and used the hydraulic press and some very good blocking to support everything while I applied some pressure on the shaft. A little heat and 11 TONS of pressure and it finally came free. After cleaning all the pieces, they slip fit within each other again. Given that there already were two holes in the bushing section of the J arm, I tapped one to 1/8" NPT and installed a grease fitting. It won't seize again!
Onward to sanding the frame and some high build primer! I need to see RED!

J-Mech 07-19-2016 01:51 AM

You can't use that spring pin you installed. A spring pin is not the same as a spirol pin. The spirol pins will handle more load. You will just break the spring pin in short order.

Rescue11 07-19-2016 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by J-Mech (Post 383854)
You can't use that spring pin you installed. A spring pin is not the same as a spirol pin. The spirol pins will handle more load. You will just break the spring pin in short order.

Whizz on it, just weld the pup

aagitch 07-19-2016 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Rescue11 (Post 383855)
Whizz on it, just weld the pup

He could if he doesn't plan on removing it again. :bigthink:

DieselDoctor 07-19-2016 10:33 AM

Thanks- I'll change them out to spirol-loc pins. These were the pins that were in it when I tore it down.

DieselDoctor 07-25-2016 12:50 AM

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Made some more progress. Frame has been sanded to remove all rust, scale and most of the old paint. Today it got two coats of high build epoxy primer, I'm pleased with the results as even the pitted sections are smooth. After some cure time, I'll wet sand it to break the surface and shoot it IH Red. The frame was in great shape, no cracks and all threaded holes had good threads. The only problem so far has been the implement shaft arm and that's been addressed. These little guys are tough. No significant issues after 32 years!

Dirty Steve 07-25-2016 05:37 AM

Hats off! You are doing it right. Keep up.the good work!:clap:

Mooner 07-25-2016 11:00 AM

Wow! Impressive work! The 782D may be my favorite Cub of all. So hard to choose. Lol
Thanks for sharing...looking forward to seeing the progress.

ACecil 07-25-2016 12:15 PM

Looking good! Thanks for the pic and update.


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