1A Tiller Saga
 

As some of you know I scored a 782 awhile back and couldn't be happier. You guys are right about this being worse than an addiction! Anyway it came with a 1A tiller and the only piece missing is the handle for the sleeve bolt and the mule drive for it. Here it is as found.

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It doesn't seem to be locked up and easily turns by hand. I started to take off the shields and was trying to figure out how to check if there was any lube left inside. I found no help from google and was starting to doubt if this was a good idea to take it apart much more. However just a little searching on here lead me to other who have rebuilt one and thanks again guys for all the info and documentation for the rest of us. Got a couple of pins off the main tine shaft and see that's going to be a battle to get those off. About changed course and decided to just drill a hole for adding lube and run it the was it is. Until I saw this and well the pictures say it all.

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Looks like a full rebuild after all. Should be fun:)

No, there is no lube in the tiller, just in the gearbox that is on the tractor. If the case is sealed up and the bearings are not out, I'd leave it alone.


JeffinPA on this site makes the handle you need. :beerchug:

Yeah that would be best to leave it alone but if look close at the last pic you can see the bearing guts made love with that cover. Can't imagine that looks good inside either:(

I don't see it

If it turns free, I'd leave it alone. I drilled and tapped the case on my tiller so that I could lube it. I put a little vent from a rear end on it. I use a mix of 00 grease and 140W gear oil. It leaks some when it sits so I put a pan under it.

Its on the left side in the picture might be hard to see. Here's another

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Its looks as if all the balls tried to get out at the same time and made indentions all around that shaft cover. Rolling it over you can tell that bearing is messed up. I highly doubt it but could a guy just pull that bearing without a total tear down?

That is just a dust cover. The bearing is inside a flange underneath. I don't think you see what you think you see. No idea what you "feel". :bigthink:


Look:
http://www.cubcadet.com/equipment/AR...______________

right there in red you mean?

Yeah that's it. It turns but its has a slight notchy feel to it. I don't want to run it like it is and ruin a really nice tiller.

Like I said, no bearing in that spot. If the bearing was completely out, that shaft would be sagging. My bet is you feel a bearing on the top shaft. I don't think with the gear reduction and chains inside you could feel a rough bearing on the bottom shaft when turning it by hand.

Other possibility is that the felt seal on the shaft in that location is gone and a small rock got in there and is moving around. I am really doubting bearing failure in that spot.

My tiller was hard to turn. After dumping a QT. of 140 gear oil in it and running for a while it freed up. Not much inside other than a couple chains and sprockets. The factory grease gets hard over the years that's why I went with oil to begin with the 1st year. Now it gets my special blend before use.

I see, that is possible something got in there. It wouldn't hurt to pull that cover back and see what drops out will it?

It won't hurt. Go for it.

Couldn't get a good picture and it was difficult to see but looks like the only scarring is on the outside edge of the lock collar. That leads me to think its the set screw that came out and rolled around awhile. Nothing else was in there besides the felt and some dirt. I feel good about putting it back together and do some gardening with it now.

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