Just picked up a 1864!
 

I just scored a second cub, an intact 1864. A good companion to my 1641. It was only $275, can't go wrong with that.

You stole it. 1864 is one of the all time best. :beerchug:

:bigeyes: wow, where are the pix??!

They're coming. I had to get it and go before he changed his mind. Lol! It has a 42" deck though, what's up with that? It looks silly on this tractor.

Congrats on the 1864!

Great find and you really did steal that tractor.
A 42 inch deck on that tractor really is ridiculous.
Would really like to find a 54 for mine but they are not that easy to come by.
Be sure to read some of Sam Mac's posts to see what you need to do going through those tractors.

Congrats.

Here you go.

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If that runs all I can say is you suck, LMAO.

Lol! It runs good. It needs a fuel pump though, he had bungeed a little gas tank to the top of the engine to have gravity fed instead of replacing the fuel pump. I have a few good fuel pumps that'll work in it so that's no big deal at all.

Perhaps he had narrow spaces to mow.

well,
That is a good deal, how many hours?

Looks great. Follow Sam's links for Cyclops. Go through it one end to the other and it will last 20 years or longer. :beerchug:

Thanks. Yeah Sam gave me the list when I got my 1641 a few months ago. Is the 54" the biggest that will fit this one? My 1641 has a 48" but it's not listed as an attachment on tractordata.com and the biggest listed for the 1864 is 48". I might not keep the 1641 now since I got the 1864 and put the 48" on it and let the 42" go with the 1641. I don't have the space to store two cubs with my Jacobsen plow rig and all my other toys. I am happy with the 1641 but I don't pass up good deals.

1038. It purrs good and the hydro is good and quiet.

54 is listed in the attachments for the 1864. 324 54" Mower, 190-324-100

That is the largest deck you can get under a GT. Only deck larger is the 60" Haban but you need a Super for that. I have a 48GT under my 18/2264 but I'm looking for a 54GT

A buddy of mine has a 54 on his 1864 and it works just fine.

Sam may have a couple of them decks stashed away.

Yeah I saw that part number on partstree. I will probably just stick with the 48". I don't think it's worth the cost to get a 54" for an additional 6" of cutting. If I find a Super with a 60" for $275*, I'll let yall know, that then would be worth it to me. :beerchug:

*I'd have a better chance getting struck by lightning.

That's a good looking 1864, you got there!

I'm contemplating what to do. I know the common opinion here is to just keep everything since I have it but my brain is having a :BB&YS:.

I am definitely going to keep the 1864, no if's and's or but's. That's not even a debate. It has about 300 hours more than my 1641 on it. I kind of want to keep the 1641, but I don't think I want to keep a 42" deck around. Is this 42" deck worth anything? Does it have a different lift carriage than the 48"? Just looking at it at quick glance because I haven't had a chance to really look it over until I get it into my garage, it looks like it's more narrow and not interchangeable with the 48" deck. So the deck lift carriage would have to be kept with each deck. I want to put the 48" on the 1864. I may want to sell the 1641 or maybe at least the engine off it. Because if anything goes wrong with the Kohler 18hp, I will want to rebuild it or replace it with (grunts) more power (grunt grunt), which makes the 16HP briggs vanguard expendable as well as some other parts I probably won't need and just keep some important stuff as a spare for the 1864. The 1641 was a bit of a humpty dumpty when I got it, but it's all together and running good now. I've parted two Vanguard 16HP's out on FleaBay and each pulled about $500-$600 total for each in parts, so that remains an option for me as well. :bigthink: I bought the 1641 for the engine before I realized what I really had, and then I decided to put it back together and use it for my main rider, and then I came across this 1864. I think I just will have to choose one to keep, and I know which one I'm choosing to keep if I decide to keep only one. Such hard decisions. Maybe I should just stay off Craigslist... I have a very understanding and supportive wife though :biggrin2::biggrin2::biggrin2:

What have you got for a deck on the 1641?

The 1641 came with the 48" that I want to move to the 1864. I would probably put the 42" from the 1864 I just got on the 1641.

That will work. :beerchug:

So here's a crazy thing. When I bought the 1864 it started right up, I drove it around and right in on the trailer, but now that I'm home and trying to get it started to get it off the trailer I turn the key and it just clicks and the disengage pto light comes on. I flip the pto switch and it engages and disengages fine. It's definitely not engaged, even though that's what the idiot light is telling me. I'm thinking a wire or something vibrated loose or there's a wet short somewhere because it was a bit misty and foggy yesterday on the trip home. I wonder where to start looking, in the PTO switch? I have wiggled all the plugs to make sure they are snug and stuff. I had a heck of a time moving it not running. I put a dolly under the rear and lifted it up and pulled it into the garage by hand with the wheels off the ground. That was a workout to pull it 30 ft or so. But now it's in the garage and I can start looking it over. :bigthink:

Were you sitting on it?

Here is the wiring diagram. I'll send it to your e-mail

Yep. And I'm plenty heavy for it to detect me.

Thanks Sam. Got em.

First check power at the small wire on the starter with key in start. If you have power, you need to add the additional starter relay. Those solenoids pull too much current for the ignition switch.

I just killed my second relay today. The disengage PTO light was on, but I think that's normal. I pulled the wire off the additional relay, put it direct to the solenoid and it cranked after a few attempts. I'll try to find the thread that covers the add-on relay later. Even if that is not your problem, it's a good idea.:beerchug:

Is this a thing with the 1864? I have a 1641 that I replaced the diode on the starter wire and another wire up by the battery because the wire broke off at the side of the diode. I bought a pack of 4 of those, they're just rectifier diodes and full wave rectifiers take 4, I used two on my 1641 and still have two left. Seems odd that this appeared after a rather bumpy moist ride home.

Thanks for the tips. :beerchug:

The interlock switches and connections are problematic. On my 1864, I replaced the PTO, brake and ignition switches. Just work through the wiring diagram from Sam. However, the switch failure may be intermittent. I gave up chasing intermittent operation and replaced switches with new.

Until you figure out what's wrong with the start function, it's a simple matter to jump the solenoid to start it. Short across the spade post where the blue wire connects to the large battery post and it'll crank over.

Here's a link to the added starter relay.

http://www.onlycubcadets.net/forum/s...ad.php?t=38545

You know what, sometimes I get too focused on fixing a problem that I forget the workaround. I didn't even think of that at the time because it was getting dark when I was monkeying with trying to figure out what was wrong rather than just jumping the solenoid. That would have been a lot easier than dragging it like I did.

Speaking of that. My 1641 has a relief valve lever that supposedly you pull up and you can push or tow it. It will not move at all, it's like the brake is on. Relief valve not working? The 1864 has a spot for one on the tunnel plate but there is no lever. Missing or never there in the first place? How does one move these things if I'm all the way out in the back field and need a tow or push to the house for some reason?

1641 has a hydro gear pump and they use the pull up release. The 1864 has a Sundstrand pump and those have auto release valves.

Here is another thread with a Kohler that doesn't want to start. In it I posted how to jumper the starter. http://www.onlycubcadets.net/forum/s...ad.php?t=47966

Thanks. I hope to mess with it tonight if I have time. I have the day off tomorrow for kids haircuts, but other than that I should have time then too. Upon closer inspection when I got it into the garage last night, there is a small rust hole on the 42" deck that I didn't see before because it was caked with grass, and the engine is pretty wet under the valve cover areas. There is a disconnected hose on the side that goes to the oil filter area. It's just sticking there. It reaches the fuel pump, is this the vacuum line for the fuel pump? Seems like an odd place for a vacuum line if it is. This is my first Kohler, my Briggs vanguard vacuum comes off the valve cover. This engine has what look like two vacuum ports capped off on the valve cover. I was going to look through the manual for this one that you sent me Sam for the 1641 but there's no 1864 in there but thrre is a 1862. That was not a Kohler command was it?

Post some pics. The vac line for the fuel pump comes off the front of the engine near the oil filter.

You may want to take a look at this thread about the 1864 I picked up. You will probably need to do many of the same things with your new toy.
http://www.onlycubcadets.net/forum/s...ad.php?t=46990

Ok, then that's the one I need then. It's just hanging loose in there. The fuel pump is bad, and the PO bungeed a small metal gas tank to the firewall and used it as a gravity feed. I'm going to replace the fuel pump and put it back together the right way. I think since I have the 1641 I will just take my time and go over the 1864 top to bottom before I move the 48" deck over to the 1864 and decide if I'm going to keep the 1641 or not. The engine looks a little wet around the valve covers also, so maybe I'll just get in there and put new gaskets and seals, etc. Having that vacuum line open and loose worries me a little that it could have sucked dirt in.

I will post more detailed pictures when I get a chance. I'm just glancing at it and asking a lot of questions, that I probably can just figure out if I take/have the time to really dig in to it.

By the way, I just saw your other post with the link about your 1864. I was just over in Perry County on Friday and needed gas and happened to be right across the street from Perry Power Equipment.

The picture from your post #69 on that thread, http://www.onlycubcadets.net/forum/a...1&d=1483389668 I see the vacuum line setup so now I know what it should be. That valve cover on mine that has the oil fill has what look like vacuum ports, one on each side with a plastic/rubber cap over them (so they aren't used if that's what they are). I don't see those in your pictures. I am not at home, I am at work currently but I did some google image searches and found one that looks like what I have from an ebay image. It looks like this: Attachment 83205

One problem is solved. I put a new battery on it and it turns right over. I was trying to start it from jumper cables to my car last night and I guess it wasn't enough power.

New (used/good) fuel pump installed, and I found the fuel valve to be rusted tight and I found the hard way the rubber grommet was shot. So I pulled it all out and replaced it with good spare ones I had and it runs perfect. Here is a picture of my valve cover I had mentioned.

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Everything is coming up aces now, I just need to give it a bath and change fluids and filters.

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