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olds45512 04-29-2017 09:08 AM

Economical dual coil replacement.
 
Just looked up the coil for a 782 and about had a heart attack when I saw $280. I'm looking for a more economical replacement and found some inexpensive dual coils on eBay but wanted to here some opinions on the matter. Here's a link to one of them, would this be suitable and if not what do you recommend? Thanks.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/331587334384

Oak 04-29-2017 09:15 AM

I have heard of people using the HD coils.

Here is another option but not as cheap.
http://www.kirkengines.com/index.php#DualSuperCoil

http://www.gphope.com/store/1640

olds45512 04-29-2017 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Oak (Post 418154)
I have heard of people using the HD coils.

Here is another option but not as cheap.
http://www.kirkengines.com/index.php#DualSuperCoil

http://www.gphope.com/store/1640

I found those on eBay as well, I'm just looking for the most inexpensive option because nobody has ever heard the engine run and I don't want to sink a boatload of money in it to find out it's junk.

R Bedell 04-29-2017 09:23 AM

I done a little searching on the Internet for Emgo #48-98618. Some of the sites state that the "primary resistance" is 3.9 ohms, which is inline with Kohler's 4-5 ohms.

Thus, I would say this would work.

:IH Trusted Hand:

olds45512 04-29-2017 11:00 AM

Thanks for the input Roland.:beerchug:

R Bedell 04-29-2017 11:09 AM

I have since found the Primary and Secondary specifications. It will be a GOOD match.
:beerchug:

olds45512 04-29-2017 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by R Bedell (Post 418176)
I have since found the Primary and Secondary specifications. It will be a GOOD match.
:beerchug:

And that's why you're the electrical guru and I'm not, thanks again Roland.

J-Mech 04-29-2017 01:22 PM

It's common for manufacturers to use products already in existence for their builds. It's somewhat known that a Harley coil is the same/similar to the Kohler one. I always want to know, if it's the same part, how does Kohler justify the ridiculous price tag they put on theirs, when it's the same thing.... :Unknown:

Nice find on the more economical part! :ThumbsUp:

olds45512 04-29-2017 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by J-Mech (Post 418189)
It's common for manufacturers to use products already in existence for their builds. It's somewhat known that a Harley coil is the same/similar to the Kohler one. I always want to know, if it's the same part, how does Kohler justify the ridiculous price tag they put on theirs, when it's the same thing.... :Unknown:

Nice find on the more economical part! :ThumbsUp:

The real find will be if the guy doesn't back out of the deal and delivers the tractor later today like he's supposed to, I will share more when it arrives.

RLause 04-29-2017 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J-Mech (Post 418189)
It's common for manufacturers to use products already in existence for their builds. It's somewhat known that a Harley coil is the same/similar to the Kohler one. I always want to know, if it's the same part, how does Kohler justify the ridiculous price tag they put on theirs, when it's the same thing.... :Unknown:

Nice find on the more economical part! :ThumbsUp:

I worked for Toledo Scale back in the 70, 80's and could not believe the mark up on parts they would re-sell. No internet at the time, so you were locked in to their parts and prices.

Oak 04-29-2017 02:46 PM

Okay Tim, you got my interest now.
:popcorn:

Tony h 02-13-2018 01:15 PM

So how did the Harley Coil work. The early Harley dual coils are at 5 ohm impedance. Is that what the kohler one is? My coil just got a crack in the casing. Maybe the internal oil froze in the extreme cold. Engine breaks up after running g awhilei

olds45512 02-13-2018 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Tony h (Post 446234)
So how did the Harley Coil work. The early Harley dual coils are at 5 ohm impedance. Is that what the kohler one is? My coil just got a crack in the casing. Maybe the internal oil froze in the extreme cold. Engine breaks up after running g awhilei

Neve bought one. Turns out my buddy with the cub junkyard had a box full of dual coils and I bought one for $5.

dodge trucker 02-13-2018 01:46 PM

I take it you have a KT series on there? I just got a new coil for a KT 19, on another brand of machine. The coil I bought is for a Harley application and wow does this motor start easy now...... And only after I got it I found out that I had one here All the time.. didn't need to buy one. The one I have looks brand new, I think it is supposed to be for a k482 or a k532, but it looks for all the world like many of the Harley coils that I saw pictured on ePay. The one that I bought is a Standard brand, remember the old "Blue streak" line of ignition parts, it is blue.... I'm not at home right now so I don't have the parts number in front of me. I bought that coil from ePay for like $55, looked up the part number on O'Reilly's or advance Auto website and was surprised to see that it came up there for 2x the price. Napa has it too for nearly 3x.

J-Mech 02-13-2018 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Tony h (Post 446234)
My coil just got a crack in the casing. Maybe the internal oil froze in the extreme cold.

First off, oil doesn't "freeze". Especially oil that thin. Secondly, if it does get cold enough to cause it to turn somewhat solid, oil doesn't expand when it gets cold. Water is the only liquid (there are a few other materials that do) on earth that does this.

Tony h 02-14-2018 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by J-Mech (Post 446239)
First off, oil doesn't "freeze". Especially oil that thin. Secondly, if it does get cold enough to cause it to turn somewhat solid, oil doesn't expand when it gets cold. Water is the only liquid (there are a few other materials that do) on earth that does this.

I was thinking that maybe there was moisture in the coil. The windings are wound with varnished /insulated wire but the Cooling oil may have had moisture The -15f temps we had for a few days made me suspicious.

The Harley coil; Was it the type that looks like the Kohler (looks like a Can with Plug wires at on end ) or is it the Small Boxy looking type?

https://www.jpcycles.com/product/300...ycles-12v-coil

OR

https://www.jpcycles.com/product/381...e-12-volt-coil

Joe_K 02-14-2018 07:25 AM

I used a coil from Patton Acres, it was around $120.

efharg 02-14-2018 04:55 PM

I used the Harley 5 ohm coils on a 682 and 782. They both worked great, started a lot easier, and ran smoother. Best of all, they were less than $50

RLause 02-14-2018 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by efharg (Post 446317)
I used the Harley 5 ohm coils on a 682 and 782. They both worked great, started a lot easier, and ran smoother. Best of all, they were less than $50

I have done the same thing.

darkminion_17 02-15-2018 09:33 AM

I have used the little square one as a replacement for the jd coil.


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