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mkedzierski 05-18-2018 06:37 PM

Final Drive on XT3 GSX
 
Anyone know what the final drive ratio is on the XT3? If so, please pass along. Several people would like to know including myself.

darkminion_17 05-18-2018 08:04 PM

Your dealer that your XT3 came from can tell you.
Googleidge it .

Shrewcub 05-18-2018 08:15 PM

I Googlerated it Lew and didn't find the answer easily. I too would call or email. If I needed the final ratio for some reason, I would also like to know the reduction ratio, as they go hand in hand.

darkminion_17 05-18-2018 08:29 PM

When I googood it I got the answer.

Shrewcub 05-18-2018 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkminion_17 (Post 453963)
When I googood it I got the answer.

Care to share?

darkminion_17 05-18-2018 08:41 PM

Can't tell you...

Shrewcub 05-18-2018 08:46 PM

If you can't post something helpfull, why post?:BB&YS:

darkminion_17 05-18-2018 08:51 PM

To the OPy
You could have asked that question before, or after you purchased your tractor from the dealer.
Shrew baby, here you go.

http://www.mytractorforum.com/19-cub...ue-rating.html

mkedzierski 05-24-2018 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shrewcub (Post 453957)
I Googlerated it Lew and didn't find the answer easily. I too would call or email. If I needed the final ratio for some reason, I would also like to know the reduction ratio, as they go hand in hand.

FYI...Cub Cadet asked the their engineering dept and they responded with a 27.7 to 1 final drive ratio on the XT3.

Terry C 05-24-2018 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mkedzierski (Post 454578)
FYI...Cub Cadet asked the their engineering dept and they responded with a 27.7 to 1 final drive ratio on the XT3.

What are you and your other concerned citizens going to do with this information?

J-Mech 05-25-2018 12:44 AM

I want to know what the question really is, and the answer.

There is no "final drive" on a Cub Cadet. Not by a tractor standard anyway. If you wanted to be technical, the final drive would be the last reduction before the wheel. But there is one before that "final" reduction.
So, did you originally want to know the total reduction ratio between the hydro and the wheel? Or did you just want to know what the last reduction is?
Is the answer the "engineers" gave the ratio of the R/P? Or the total ratio between the hydro and the tire?

:bigthink::bigthink::bigthink::bigthink:



So, I made a quick trip to the parts book. I looked up the trans for an XT3. It shows all the gears, and the tooth count of all of them, minus the pinion gear on the hydro. (Says not available.) But I know the trans in the XT3 is the same as the trans in a 3235, so I looked it up. Low and behold, all part numbers are the same, but that diagram actually lists the gear on the hydro and gives the tooth count. So, in less than 10 min, I now know what the ratio of the hydro to the ring gear is, and the ratio of the ring gear to the "final drive"..... AND.... what the 27.7:1 ratio is that was stated by CCC! And I didn't have to make a phone call, or wait 6 days to get an answer.

Math and reading are so cool.

mkedzierski 06-24-2018 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J-Mech (Post 454618)
I want to know what the question really is, and the answer.

There is no "final drive" on a Cub Cadet. Not by a tractor standard anyway. If you wanted to be technical, the final drive would be the last reduction before the wheel. But there is one before that "final" reduction.
So, did you originally want to know the total reduction ratio between the hydro and the wheel? Or did you just want to know what the last reduction is?
Is the answer the "engineers" gave the ratio of the R/P? Or the total ratio between the hydro and the tire?

:bigthink::bigthink::bigthink::bigthink:



So, I made a quick trip to the parts book. I looked up the trans for an XT3. It shows all the gears, and the tooth count of all of them, minus the pinion gear on the hydro. (Says not available.) But I know the trans in the XT3 is the same as the trans in a 3235, so I looked it up. Low and behold, all part numbers are the same, but that diagram actually lists the gear on the hydro and gives the tooth count. So, in less than 10 min, I now know what the ratio of the hydro to the ring gear is, and the ratio of the ring gear to the "final drive"..... AND.... what the 27.7:1 ratio is that was stated by CCC! And I didn't have to make a phone call, or wait 6 days to get an answer.

Math and reading are so cool.

Thanks for doing that homework. I wasn't sure about the tranny in the 3000 series being the same. I guess to put it in simple terms, I am trying to find out the "power" or "torque" at the wheels or "whatever" the auto manufacturers are measuring it from. As an example, a Camero or Mustang might be listed as 300hp with 400 ftlbs of torque. That's what I'm trying to find for nothing more than curiosity. I did talk with my resident Mech Engineer at my work place, but he didn't have enough information on the tractor to be certain of the numbers he came up with. They seemed a bit high at 400plus ft lbs.

J-Mech 06-24-2018 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mkedzierski (Post 458018)
Thanks for doing that homework. I wasn't sure about the tranny in the 3000 series being the same. I guess to put it in simple terms, I am trying to find out the "power" or "torque" at the wheels or "whatever" the auto manufacturers are measuring it from. As an example, a Camero or Mustang might be listed as 300hp with 400 ftlbs of torque. That's what I'm trying to find for nothing more than curiosity. I did talk with my resident Mech Engineer at my work place, but he didn't have enough information on the tractor to be certain of the numbers he came up with. They seemed a bit high at 400plus ft lbs.

No other people on earth are more frustrating to talk to about mechanical things than engineers!!

Dude, a Camero or Mustang listed as 300HP and 400ftlbs of torque is completely different than a tractor. COMPLETELY. You cannot compare them. Cars and tractors measure output differently. Stop worrying about it anyway. Why is it even important?????

There is a reason mechanics and engineers don't drink in the same bars.

mkedzierski 06-24-2018 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J-Mech (Post 458019)
No other people on earth are more frustrating to talk to about mechanical things than engineers!!

Dude, a Camero or Mustang listed as 300HP and 400ftlbs of torque is completely different than a tractor. COMPLETELY. You cannot compare them. Cars and tractors measure output differently. Stop worrying about it anyway. Why is it even important?????

There is a reason mechanics and engineers don't drink in the same bars.

You're right, I should just let it go because I've been going in circles trying to find something. Bottom line is the tractor has plenty of power and it does what I ask it to do. Like I said earlier, my reason for knowing is nothing more than curiosity. Thanks again.


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