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bllwnkl 08-02-2018 02:29 PM

Side panel screws
 
Made some screws for my 1250 side panels. Thumb screws, couplers, T-nuts and red Loctite. Makes it easier to get to the fuel shut-off valve.

https://i.imgur.com/G5EXpb8.jpg?1

https://i.imgur.com/pPoIJdc.jpg?1

https://i.imgur.com/lPhugo0.jpg?1

J-Mech 08-02-2018 02:31 PM

Why would you need to get to the fuel shut of valve that often?

Most hardware stores carry wing nuts and bolts....

cooperino 08-02-2018 02:50 PM

I like it! Anything that makes life a little easier is a good thing!
:beerchug:

hyperlightboards48 08-02-2018 03:20 PM

Cool, the panels seem to have to come off as quickly as I install then back on. Especially while I continue to iron out kinks. This would make the removal that much faster.

bllwnkl 08-02-2018 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by J-Mech (Post 462475)
Why would you need to get to the fuel shut of valve that often?

Most hardware stores carry wing nuts and bolts....

I shut it off every time I'm finished with it.

Yes they do. That's where I got these. I wanted something one piece, the right length, and something so I didn't have to deal with washers. This is what I came up with.

J-Mech 08-02-2018 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by bllwnkl (Post 462504)
I shut it off every time I'm finished with it.

Why? :Unknown:

Do you shut the gas off on your truck when you put it in the garage?

olds45512 08-02-2018 09:04 PM

I always shut the fuel off on the 784 but i added a shut off right before the fuel pump so all i have to do is lift the hood. I once had a Cub that developed a pin hole in the float and it emptied a full tank of fuel on my shed floor, sure wish i would have shut the fuel off on that tractor, took forever for the smell to go away.

bllwnkl 08-02-2018 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by J-Mech (Post 462505)
Why? :Unknown:

Do you shut the gas off on your truck when you put it in the garage?

Why? Because with a gravity fed fuel system there is constant fuel pressure on the carburetor if there is fuel in the tank. There may be a week or even longer between mowing times. I've walked in my garage and it reeked of gas. The pressure forced gas out any orifice it could find. So, I now shut it off and run it dry and haven't had that problem since.

My truck? It's not gravity fed.

twoton 08-02-2018 09:27 PM

Nice setup there Mr wnkl.:beerchug:

I shut my fuel off too.:ThumbsUp:

But what do I know. I clean my spark plugs too.

J-Mech 08-02-2018 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bllwnkl (Post 462523)
Why? Because with a gravity fed fuel system there is constant fuel pressure on the carburetor if there is fuel in the tank. There may be a week or even longer between mowing times. I've walked in my garage and it reeked of gas. The pressure forced gas out any orifice it could find. So, I now shut it off and run it dry and haven't had that problem since.

My truck? It's not gravity fed.

It only leaks if the needle valve in the carb is bad. Put in a new one, and leave the gas on. Easy fix, and no need to take the panel off all the time. Really no need to change the tractor over a cheap fix.

finsruskw 08-02-2018 09:42 PM

Buddy of mine just blew up his enclosed trailer and burnt it to the ground w/2 cubs, an outboard, a gen set and all his tools due to gas fumes. Dumb ass.

If Ya take cubs to RPRU and it's inside a bldg., better be prepared to shut off the gas and seal the vent in the tank. Fire code, Ya know!
Worked the Cub display last year at Des Moines and we had more than on disgruntled exhibitor that chose to set up outside in the heat when they could have been inside in the A/C comfort.

john hall 08-02-2018 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by olds45512 (Post 462517)
I always shut the fuel off on the 784 but i added a shut off right before the fuel pump so all i have to do is lift the hood. I once had a Cub that developed a pin hole in the float and it emptied a full tank of fuel on my shed floor, sure wish i would have shut the fuel off on that tractor, took forever for the smell to go away.

We do the same on the 982, 782,1811 and 2072. Just put in one of those little red handled valves Briggs sells for around $8. One of these days I want to put in an inline fuel solenoid shutoff. Why, because I want to. :biggrin2:

farmall fred 08-03-2018 06:43 AM

Back on track. I like the idea for the side panel screws. Much easier than having to get a socket and ratchet. I am going to copy the idea for my 1650 loader tractor.
Thanks for posting.

ol'George 08-03-2018 08:35 AM

If one puts the bolts in from the back side, you have studs to hang the side panels on, and use big wing nuts like the old vehicle air cleaners did back in the day, works for me.:beerchug:

Terry C 08-03-2018 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by ol'George (Post 462546)
If one puts the bolts in from the back side, you have studs to hang the side panels on, and use big wing nuts like the old vehicle air cleaners did back in the day, works for me.:beerchug:

We have the winner!

finsruskw 08-03-2018 09:12 AM

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I use these.
No extra hardware, or tools needed.
Plus you can really torque them down with just your fingers.
Available at any hardware store, be sure not to get the bigger ones though.

twoton 08-03-2018 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by finsruskw (Post 462551)
I use these.
No extra hardware, or tools needed.
Plus you can really torque them down with just your fingers.
Available at any hardware store, be sure not to get the bigger ones though.


That's what I use and I actually leave the left side knob off most of the time. The spring in the front holds the side panel on just fine and it's easy to pull the panel out just a bit to turn the gas on and off.

bllwnkl 08-03-2018 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by finsruskw (Post 462551)
I use these.
No extra hardware, or tools needed.
Plus you can really torque them down with just your fingers.
Available at any hardware store, be sure not to get the bigger ones though.

I just wanted to make a one piece screw that didn't need washers. Mine don't need washers. No loose parts.

bllwnkl 08-03-2018 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by ol'George (Post 462546)
If one puts the bolts in from the back side, you have studs to hang the side panels on, and use big wing nuts like the old vehicle air cleaners did back in the day, works for me.:beerchug:

I thought about that, too. Mine are all one piece so I don't have to use washers and wing nuts. No loose parts.

finsruskw 08-03-2018 12:28 PM

no loose parts here either, just get washers w/smaller holes and screw 'em onto the wing nut 1st....
whatever.....

cooperino 08-03-2018 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by J-Mech (Post 462505)
Why? :Unknown:

Do you shut the gas off on your truck when you put it in the garage?

Why do you care ? :HeadScratch::Huh:

Does not look like he trying to win prizes with it at a tractor show. He just wants an easy way to get his panels off and he achieved that. Why does it seem like anytime someone tries to better their machine or do something that seems unorthodox to you, you get negative? So you would not do this to your tractor. Still no reason to be a negative nelly and ruin someones else ideas.

To bllwnkl, and all the other here that have made some type of adaption like this.. GOOD WORK! I'm not being patronizing here. It works for you and that's what matters.

Hey bllwnkl.
Not sure there is a spot on the tractor to do this but would it be possible to run a longer fuel line to a spot where it would be convenient to put a fuel shutoff outside the panel? Something like this maybe?

J-Mech 08-03-2018 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by cooperino (Post 462575)
Why do you care ? :HeadScratch::Huh:

Does not look like he trying to win prizes with it at a tractor show. He just wants an easy way to get his panels off and he achieved that. Why does it seem like anytime someone tries to better their machine or do something that seems unorthodox to you, you get negative? So you would not do this to your tractor. Still no reason to be a negative nelly and ruin someones else ideas.

I want people to know that a tractor isn't supposed to leak fuel. If it does, then it can be fixed. No reason to adapt the side panels to be easily removed just to shut off a fuel line. Not that the adaption was a bad thing. I would do the same. But not so I could shut the gas off every time I parked the tractor. For your info, the adaption isn't a problem. My point is, if you have a gas leak, you should fix it. But your small mind only focuses on what it wants to think, not the bigger point/picture.

On another note, it's not your concern either. Take your own advice and don't worry about me. You're new here. I'm not. You think I'm going to change for some newbie who likes to post a lot? You're not the first, or the last. I'll still be here long after you get bored and leave.

cooperino 08-03-2018 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by J-Mech (Post 462578)
I want people to know that a tractor isn't supposed to leak fuel. If it does, then it can be fixed. No reason to adapt the side panels to be easily removed just to shut off a fuel line. Not that the adaption was a bad thing. I would do the same. But not so I could shut the gas off every time I parked the tractor. For your info, the adaption isn't a problem. My point is, if you have a gas leak, you should fix it. But your small mind only focuses on what it wants to think, not the bigger point/picture.

On another note, it's not your concern either. Take your own advice and don't worry about me. You're new here. I'm not. You think I'm going to change for some newbie who likes to post a lot? You're not the first, or the last. I'll still be here long after you get bored and leave.

He never said it leaked at the needle.

Im not worried about you. I'm worried that people will stop posting things like this because you will discourage them. Yeah, Im new here, and in the short time I have been here I have seen several people in posts and in my mail box say they were done here because of you! Sorry pal. You may get to some people like that but I won't be one of them. I don't get discouraged by keyboard cowboys. At what point do you finally realize for all the good things you do here you end up matching them with bad things? You say I like to argue?

J-Mech 08-03-2018 02:16 PM

I'm not going to debate with you. PM me if you like, but I'm not going to do this. You're childish, and it gets old.

cooperino 08-03-2018 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by J-Mech (Post 462528)
It only leaks if the needle valve in the carb is bad. Put in a new one, and leave the gas on. Easy fix, and no need to take the panel off all the time. Really no need to change the tractor over a cheap fix.

This, so everyone knows is not the only reason it could leak. If you have a nearly full tank of gas and the cap is not venting "plugged vent in cap" pressure could build up on a hot day, causing fuel to come out wherever it can escape from. The weakest link will probably be the needle valve if all of your lines are in good shape and tight.

J-Mech 08-03-2018 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by cooperino (Post 462582)
This, so everyone knows is not the only reason it could leak. If you have a nearly full tank of gas and the cap is not venting "plugged vent in cap" pressure could build up causing fuel to come out wherever it can escape from. The weakest link will probably be the needle valve if all of your lines are in good shape and tight.

If the vent cap was plugged, it would have running issues. The old caps on these tractors just have a hole in them, not a vent valve. Pretty rare they plug, and usually obvious if they do.
"Just so everyone knows."

bllwnkl 08-03-2018 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by finsruskw (Post 462572)
no loose parts here either, just get washers w/smaller holes and screw 'em onto the wing nut 1st....
whatever.....

Cool. Glad it works.


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