Joined the Super Cyclops Club
 

Super excited to join both the cyclops club and the super club today. Snagged this non-running 2084. I’m pretty excited to get it going and terrified of cracking the plastic. I don’t think it’ll take much to get it running, but not sure what I’ve got once I do. 1400 hours or so on it, and PO thought that the engine was getting “weak” and it was hard to start.

Get lucky and it’s just the ignition modules/carb needs cleaned/bad battery. Worst case is a rebuild and that’s not too bad on these CHs.

54GT Deck sat with grass on it for a few years, and it’s fairly rusty. Haven’t had a chance to dig into it yet though.

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Congratulations! Welcome to the "Supers". Seen that on Craig's list hidden behind the John Deere for sale. He also did not spell Cub Cadet properly in his listing. Be sure and check the differential front mounts for cracks before you get too far in getting it running!

Congratulations! Nice looking Cyclops!

NICE!

I used to have a 2082. :crap:

Is the 3165 considered a SUPER?

Great find! Congrats on the addition.

Nice find! I had been looking for one in this area.

Soap and water for starters. Doesn't look too bad, but that's what I said about the last 2 yellow money pits I drug in the shop.

Bought it planning on a full engine rebuild. It needs some help. Has sat for a while (oil filter was last changed in 2011, and it has less than 20 hours on it since that was done...). PO says it was hard to start and was "weak" when it was running. That's why it got sat. It's got 1400 or so hours on it. Not a ton, but certainly enough that it could need a rebuild.

Thought I'd pull everything out and clean it up and see what it's got. Compression test shows something like 35 PSI in both cylinders (they are consistent at least). Does this thing have ACR on it?

Squirting a little gas in the carb and turning it over it doesn't fire, but it does backfire a bit. It has spark at both plugs. Plugs were pretty nasty looking (black). Guessing it's burning some oil. New plugs and it might have fired off. Probably needs the carb cleaned out at any rate. Need to do a leak down and figure out what's no bueno.

Deck is pretty rusty. Haven't had a chance to look close at that yet.

It's in pretty dang good shape for what I paid for it, even if I do end up needing to rebuild the engine. These things are beasts. Sitting next to one of my 82 series tractors, it seems gigantic.

Congrats on the new addition. Give it a good bath so you can see the condition of components clearly. As mentioned check the diff mounts to make sure there is no damage then concentrate on finding the reason for the low compression. When that is determined make your plan of action. Since you bought it right, you have room to do repairs.

I'm super jealous. I emailed him around 6 this morning but you apparently beat me to it. That was a steal of a price.

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Will do! Thanks for the heads up. Yeah it was priced to move that’s for sure.

Emailed him at like 10 last night. Went to bed last night thinking I had a chance but wasn’t getting my hopes up. Craigslist is a cruel mistress. I need to ban it from my phone. I really didn’t need another cub, but I like supers and I like cyclopses and couldn’t pass it up for $200.

Super nice people, by the way.

No ACR, probably blown gen 1 head gaskets. If it has been serviced properly through out its life you may get away with head gaskets. Be sure and use gen 4 head gaskets with the fire rings and true the head surface! If you overhaul, you may want to step up to a 25 hp or 27 hp. PM me, I have several needing overhauled I would part with.

Awesome! I was actually kinda leaning (hoping at least) towards head gaskets. Not as easy as on a kt/mag but not hard at all. Plus you can really look at the valves while the heads are off.

Guy had owned it for 14 years, and bought it from the Deere dealer who I assume took it in on trade. Makes sense since CCC really stopped making this sort of thing by the time it would have been 8 or 9 years old. I liked seeing dates and hours on the oil filter. Seemed like they really liked the tractor, just needed something to mow 5 acres and didn’t want to dump 2k (new engine) into this one.

$200? Jeepers, how do you sleep at night?:biggrin2:
Congrats, that was one heck of a deal right there, even if the engine would be junk.:beerchug:
Keep us in the loop on your findings...

I think you should lay off CL too. More cubs for me. :beerchug:

Haha I miss out on my fair share too. Missed a $30 #2 cart the other day. And missed a $400 982 earlier this year too.

You got a good one right there!! I'm betting on blown head gaskets!:bigthink: My 1782 is one of my favorites.. the plastic scared me but it hasn't been bad at all.. really tough all things considered... you get it running and I promise you will enjoy it!:beerchug:

It was a $525.00 IH 982 with a cat 0 hitch and rear PTO. By the way, it runs great!

So which of you got the 2082 in Pleasant Hill on CL a month ago for $200? If you need Super parts PM me. Also have 14 blades, 3 blowers, chains/weights...

Haha yes that’s the one! Had an onan performer in it? I was #2 behind you.

I don’t feel bad about my 2084 now. :biggrin2:

I didn’t see the 2082. I don’t generally pay super close attention anymore since I REALLY don’t need more tractors. Just happened to click on the notification this time. I did snag a $150 782 with a thrown rod, IH hubcaps and a 48GT deck, a $100 782 with no seat or rear wheels (not sure why he kept those) but ran, and a $100 682 roller with very straight Metal and everything but an engine (including muffler and engine tin) in the last year or so though.

One nice thing about not having a cyclops is that I have been able to ignore 451 blowers since I have nothing to put them on. Now I have to start paying attention for good deals. Might be interested in a blade though. Too bad it’s only single hydraulics!

Congrats! That’s a crazy good deal you got there!:beerchug:

So you were the guy that kept calling and texting while I was loading it up. He said someone told him he was selling it way too cheap. I just shrugged my shoulders and continued loading. He set the price so I did not feel too guilty. Yep, a good running Onan Performer 20. Only had to put tires and a seat on it. Most of the paint original. Looking for an original IH dash for it (little worn).

I have dual hydraulic kits for Supers. Blades, I have both manual and hydraulic. Blades do work great on Supers because they are heavy enough to scrape down to the ground.

I am only collecting Supers with Kubota's in them so you are safe. Had to get the 982 to replace the one I sold to a fellow member couple years ago. Now down to (8) 2182's (one with JD44 loader), (1) 1572 Diesel, (1) 2072, (1) 982, (1) 169 w/loader), (1) 1650 dual hydraulics and a parts 782, oh and one of those green 318's. Going to thin the herd so all are for sale if the offer is right!

Welcome to the super club, alas I no longer have my 2284, but others are out there.
Keep us posted on your progress.

I think I remember texting him a bit about not being surprised he had so much interest as it was priced to sell. Never called. I never feel guilty about paying asking price unless it’s something obscene. In reality, a non-running old garden tractor isn’t worth a lot to most people, folks on here excluded.

I’m looking for an ih dash for my 782 as well. I have one to put on it but it’s a little beat up and missing a small piece down by the lift lever.

Congrats on your super!

Yep, I told him "SOLD" on the phone sight unseen, then when I arrived he tried to make me feel a little guilty. I just paid him his money, loaded and left. :beerchug: The dash I have on the 782 is not an IH but if interested I will go take a look at it!

Fixed it for you :biggrin2:

But seriously, 8 2182s?

It's not like I am hoarding all of the 2182's in Iowa, Terry seems to have snagged a couple before I could get to them! :bigthink: I have had a few 1782's, a 1772 and 1572 also but now have sold them all except for the 1572. Just don't care for the diesels after having gas Kubota's. I have had both the 2084 & 2284 with commands, which are a very good all around tractor. Plenty of power, use less fuel than KT's and start well in the winter for plowing or blowing snow.

You don’t make it easy :biggrin2:
I forgot to call you the other day. Sorry.

OK, I'll be the dummy in the crowd.

What makes a garden tractor a SUPER garden tractor. I was told my 2082 (with 3 point) was a SUPER but never knew why. Other than it was large compared to my Dads 1811.

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They are bigger. They have a 5” or so longer frame. That’s about 90% of it. They are somewhere between a SCUT and a GT.

Diagnosis:
2 blown head gaskets and a lot of carbon built up. Must have been run that way for a while. Cylinders still have cross hatch in them so that’s promising at least

Here's some of the carnage. I don't know if I've ever seen a head/cylinder/piston this dirty before. There was a HUGE hole in the head gasket though. It was basically gone on both sides. Also, a couple of the head bolts were basically finger tight. Not sure which came first, but neither one is good.

Someone mentioned improved head gaskets for these. I can't seem to find anything other than what these look like. None with fire rings. Those are just for the CH25 and bigger it seems. I get P/N KH-24-841-01-S from everything I can find and nothing that's been superseded.

I think us collectors (hoarders) around central Iowa (that includes you too Terry) need to get together some day and brag about what we have stole out from under each other through out the years. :beerchug: I know there is still someone (maybe more than one) hiding in the bushes that has not come forward yet! They snagged a 2082 from Pleasant Hill and a cart from Ankeny, both off of Craig's List recently. :bigthink:

That is where they typically blow, right at the oil return passage and suck the oil right in to the cylinder. What a mess! It's worth trying head gaskets first to see how she runs and condition of the hydro. Be sure and true the head surface. I use a thick piece of glass on a rug with 600 sand paper wet, going in a figure 8 motion until all of the surface is true. Typically they are warped in the head bolt area usually .004 to .008. I also spray brake clean in the ports and watch around the valves to see if they are sealing (brake clean will leak through where water wont).

Yeah was planning on truing up the heads. Probably tear them the rest of the way down and take a look at the margins, seats and guides while I have them this far down. One of the heads was missing an exhaust stud too, so I'll have to see what's going on there.

Appreciate the advice! This is the first CH I've torn into. Not too bad of a job so far.

It's 7".
For all practical purposes a SGT is the same as a SCUT, but not as heavy. The SGT's were pre SCUT and were still a lawn mower, not a baby tractor like a SCUT.

It's actually 5.75". I believe the rest of the length comes from the front axle.

Your both wrong, the over all length of a Cyclops GT is 72" the Cyclops Supers are 78.5 so it's 6.5 inch's :biggrin2:

That's interesting. On my 1772 frame there is 2 sets of axle mounting holes 5.75" apart. I read on the wonderful internet one time that the forward set was the same as on a gt.

If you are measuring from the front of the hood to the rear of the tires 6.5" would be fairly close if you forgot to factor in the larger tires.

On the other hand if you got a good measurement from the hood to the fenders on each one, that would be tough to argue with.

I don't personally have a super and a gt in the same series to measure like that.