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cheesedawg82 12-30-2018 12:29 PM

Row crop tires?
 
Had my first breakdown on the new 106 today, one of the maypop tires on the front went flat. In this particular case, the tire, rim, bearings, and spindle are all pretty well shot. I had it apart the other day and did a quick fix to hold me through until it broke again. Now it broke again and it looks like I'll have to buy some parts.

The plan for this tractor is strictly Gardening. The plan is to pull a plow and a cultivator, and teach the kids how to row crop. To cultivate, I'd prefer the tallest and skinniest tires I can get, and the rear tires need to track directly behind the front.

Looking for tips and tricks from the experts here. No, I'm not trying to install any kind of planetary gears, crazy lift kits, but if theres a size or pattern that you'd reccomend, please do. An extra inch of ground clearance will make w world of difference to my potatoes.

I'm assuming that I'd be best with a tri rib front tire and an ag tread rear. Budget minded choices preferred. I need tires and wheels.

I have 2 sets of turf tires, 23/8.5-12 and 23/10.5-12, I believe (they're standard sizes) on wheels. Which of those should get filled with washer fluid and used to push a snow plow in the winter and pull a sled at the fair? I have a set of chains.

A set of the cheapest possible used wheels and tires for the front of the 127 would be great, too.

R Bedell 12-30-2018 02:44 PM

As far as tires, I would suggest the following:

Front: 4.00/4.80 x 8" Tri-Ribs

Rear: 6-12 Ag's.

cheesedawg82 12-30-2018 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by R Bedell (Post 475043)
As far as tires, I would suggest the following:

Front: 4.00/4.80 x 8" Tri-Ribs

Rear: 6-12 Ag's.

Does anyone happen to have pics of a cub with these tires?
Bonus points if you're cultivating.
More bonus points if you are hilling potatoes.

finsruskw 12-30-2018 03:44 PM

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Here's my 104 with the narrow ags.

cheesedawg82 12-30-2018 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by finsruskw (Post 475046)
Here's my 104 with the narrow ags.

Winner, winner, chicken dinner! Are those the sizes mentioned above? What size wheels? Is it worth it to fill them?

What's growing in your tractor patch?

Thanks so much!!

R Bedell 12-30-2018 04:10 PM

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Are those the sizes mentioned above? What size wheels?
YUP, the sizes you inquired about.

sawdustdad 12-30-2018 08:32 PM

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My 72 with 23-8.50-12s. In case you want a little more ground contact...

You could go to a 24 or 26 inch diameter tire, which is probably the largest still using a 12 inch wheel. Millertire.com is a good place to look. They have wheels, too and can mount them for you, I believe.

CADplans 12-30-2018 09:02 PM

A set of ATV tires and wheels will get you skinny, tall tires,,, they were on my 108.

These were ATV take-off radials,, and yes, there was almost 1/4" of clearance to the fender,,,

https://beta-static.photobucket.com/...pscc863c41.jpg

That is about as tall a tire you can put on a Cub Cadet,, without removing the fenders,,,:bigthink:

cheesedawg82 12-31-2018 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by CADplans (Post 475078)
A set of ATV tires and wheels will get you skinny, tall tires,,, they were on my 108.

These were ATV take-off radials,, and yes, there was almost 1/4" of clearance to the fender,,,

https://beta-static.photobucket.com/...pscc863c41.jpg



That is about as tall a tire you can put on a Cub Cadet,, without removing the fenders,,,:bigthink:

Was that the same bolt pattern?? I might know where to make that score real cheap with steel ATV rims. They seem kinda wide though. Do they dig with a plow? I get the impression that they wont, and dont wanna be out there spinning tire when I need to be sowing seeds.

CADplans 12-31-2018 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by cheesedawg82 (Post 475097)
Was that the same bolt pattern?? I might know where to make that score real cheap with steel ATV rims. They seem kinda wide though. Do they dig with a plow? I get the impression that they wont, and dont wanna be out there spinning tire when I need to be sowing seeds.

Those tires have as much traction in dirt, grass, leaves, etc as regular tires with steel chains,,
it is virtually impossible to make them spin,,

yes, the bolt pattern was identical,,,

I used the tractor to push up piles of hay,,,

https://beta-static.photobucket.com/...psf1f1bec5.jpg

https://beta-static.photobucket.com/...psddefc55b.jpg

cheesedawg82 12-31-2018 01:34 PM

Have you pulled a plow with those tires?

CADplans 12-31-2018 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by cheesedawg82 (Post 475108)
Have you pulled a plow with those tires?

Not moldboard plowing,,
but, pushing dirt with that blade,, the tractor will lift the front tires before it will spin.

That is a Gravely rear axle mount blade,,, not connected to the front of the frame.

Workingstiff 12-31-2018 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by CADplans (Post 475078)
A set of ATV tires and wheels will get you skinny, tall tires,,, they were on my 108.

These were ATV take-off radials,, and yes, there was almost 1/4" of clearance to the fender,,,

https://beta-static.photobucket.com/...pscc863c41.jpg

That is about as tall a tire you can put on a Cub Cadet,, without removing the fenders,,,:bigthink:

Sorry, if I missed it, but what size tire and wheel? What ATV did they come off of? Might get a set and fill 'em for winter.
Thanks Dan

cheesedawg82 01-01-2019 09:26 PM

I was at Rural King today and noticed some wheelbarrow tires on wheels with 3/4" ID bearings for $14.99 a piece. 4.00x4.80/8. Has anyone tried those? Did they last? They're rated at 300# each and look like a potential quick and dirty fix with a $10 option to upgrade to foam filled.

cheesedawg82 01-02-2019 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by cheesedawg82 (Post 475224)
I was at Rural King today and noticed some wheelbarrow tires on wheels with 3/4" ID bearings for $14.99 a piece. 4.00x4.80/8. Has anyone tried those? .

So apparently this Cub bug bites pretty hard. I answered an ad on craigslist and sure enough, I now own a 149 with wheelbarrow tires, and they're flat too!! Truth be told, they're not even great for moving it around the driveway. Don't waste your time.

Mudrig150 01-03-2019 08:33 AM

If I had tires I'd help, but sadly all I have are rears. A lot of rears. Mainly 10.50-12s. I do have two sets of 6-12 ags but both are so stiff that they hold my weight plus a tractor's weight while being off the bead (which means they have 0 air in them). I do have a set of weird 9.50-12s. I had a couple 4.80-8 tires, but they're currently on a trailer.

Oh, and about the cub fever, when it hits, it hits HARD. You go from 3 cubs to 6 in the blink of an eye.

CADplans 01-03-2019 06:28 PM

Several people have asked what the ATV tires are that I put on the Cub Cadet,,

They were radials, and ordered off a surplus place,,

I was gonna make adapter when they came, but, all I had to do was put them on backward (blue painted hubs are on the inside),,,

https://beta-static.photobucket.com/...001640x625.jpg

The GT is gone now,, hauling firewood out of a wooded lot almost daily,,
The guy loves it,, he never had a GT that does not spin,,,

ColoradoCadet 01-31-2019 08:18 PM

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Roland,

[QUOTE=R Bedell;475043]As far as tires, I would suggest the following:

Front: 4.00/4.80 x 8" Tri-Ribs

I have a 149 - stock wheels. The front wheel is stamped and measures 5" wide. The tires on it were 16 x 6.5 - 8. Will the 4 x 8 work on that wheel, or do you have a narrower wheel on yours?

Thanks,

Cub Cadet 123 01-31-2019 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CADplans (Post 475102)
Those tires have as much traction in dirt, grass, leaves, etc as regular tires with steel chains,,
it is virtually impossible to make them spin,,

yes, the bolt pattern was identical,,,

I used the tractor to push up piles of hay,,,

https://beta-static.photobucket.com/...psf1f1bec5.jpg

https://beta-static.photobucket.com/...psddefc55b.jpg

To heck with the tires, how did you get the wood grain grill housing? Is that a sticker of a wood grain pattern?

Cub Cadet 123

cheesedawg82 02-01-2019 06:56 AM

[QUOTE=ColoradoCadet;477205]Roland,

Quote:

Originally Posted by R Bedell (Post 475043)
As far as tires, I would suggest the following:

Front: 4.00/4.80 x 8" Tri-Ribs

I have a 149 - stock wheels. The front wheel is stamped and measures 5" wide. The tires on it were 16 x 6.5 - 8. Will the 4 x 8 work on that wheel, or do you have a narrower wheel on yours?

Thanks,

When I posted this, both my 149 and 106 had the skinny wheels.


Since posting, I picked up a set of the wider wheels with turf tires. I believe that they're 5" wide and 16x6.5-8, and one was missing a bearing, but not bad as a part of a $50 package deal for them, 2 snow plows, a rusty old deck, and 2 brand new 4.80x8 wheelbarrow tires.

I installed a new wheel bearing in the wheel and put them on the 106, along with the plow, a couple weeks ago. We haven't had more than an inch of snow at a clip since I've owned a cub, but the wide turfs made a hell of a difference in control when pushing that little bit of fluff in 3rd gear on the street. I also noticed that they didn't tear up the wet grass as bad. These are definitely going on the 149 with the tiller if I can get her all together by spring.

ColoradoCadet 02-02-2019 07:48 PM

3 rib front tires
 
Has anyone actually put the skinny (4") tires on the wide (5") wheels? My tire place said, sure bring them down we can make it work as long as you have tubes. The only 3 rib tires I can find in the correct/current size are the Firestone 300-652 and they are over $100 each (with shipping) vs. less that $90 for both with tubes in the narrower size. I'm quite confused. At this point an extra $120 on tires isn't going to break the bank, but I don't want to spend it on tires if I don't have to because I am certainly finding things I want/need as I am going along. Any suggestions / experience would be appreciated. Thanks.

sawdustdad 02-02-2019 10:04 PM

Never tried to put narrow tires on wide rims. Might work.

what about these 5 ribs?

http://www.millertire.com/products/i...70-60-8-6-ply/

I don't know of any cheaper 6.5 inch tri ribs than Miller's $80.

You could put a pair of ags on for $80.

See if you can find a pair of narrow rims cheap?

ColoradoCadet 02-02-2019 10:55 PM

Do narrow rims fit right in place of the wide, or is some modification required? I think the narrow may be closer to the look I'm going for? I tried to buy a couple this week off Craigslist (from a 100), but I guess he didn't want to do the deal. :-(

sawdustdad 02-02-2019 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ColoradoCadet (Post 477316)
Do narrow rims fit right in place of the wide, or is some modification required? I think the narrow may be closer to the look I'm going for? I tried to buy a couple this week off Craigslist (from a 100), but I guess he didn't want to do the deal. :-(

Completely, exactly interchangeable for that era of tractors. (NFs, WFs, and most of the QLs) The narrow rims have same width hubs and same size bearings. Bearings on later QL tractors did vary, and the Original had bushings, not bearings.

ColoradoCadet 02-02-2019 11:13 PM

I will keep my eyes open, thank you for the information. The wheel thing seems to a bit confusing to a lot of us that are "newer" at this. Thanks!


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