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Please explain
Kansas City beat Philadelphia how come the sign on the bus said World Champions
Should it have read American Champions I am an Australian who is just asking Oz |
A very reasonable question. Obviously they are legends in their own minds.
Not even all of us Americans consider them champions, or care. There is even a team in Dallas that calls themselves Americas Team. Oh brother. Ken |
The Australian National teams in Cricket , Rugby Union , Rugby League and Soccer and others have to beat a whole bunch of nations before they have the right to be World Champions
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Well if no one else Plays US style football In their country and the US is the only country then they can be world Champions
What you call football we call soccer I prefer Rugby Myself as that's what I learned to Play as a child with My cousins In Scotland(sent there In the Summer as a Child) . Made me real Popular growing up or the US Army when I tell them I preferred the Mans sport not the Little Girls sport with there Pads & helmets on :ROTF2: Got a few rugby Games going when we Had British, Aussie or Kiwi Units that would come over for Training here in the states, We Americans would Usually get our rear ends handed to us. But cricket I still can't watch boars the heck out of me:ThumbsUp: |
Well if no one else Plays US style football In their country and the US is the only country then they can be world Champions
I do believe we have a number of teams playing the Pads and Helmets game here in Australia As for Cricket it has many options now T20 , Limited overs , One day and the ultimate Tests (5 days) at which we are getting our backsides severely savaged by the Indian Test team as I write But any of these types of cricket are to an Australian not as Boring as American football , play for a down or whatever it is called and have a 10 minute rest , go figure Start the game and play until an injury or half-time stops the game then play till full time Oz |
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Do not ever count an Australian out till you get to TEN The classic example of Pro and Amateur teams is the English F.A. Cup where lowly ranked teams quite often clobber the highly fancied Pro team Good chatting about this Sarge but until they beat someone , anyone off the continental USA they are pretenders to the World Champion I am guessing IFAF is an American based organisation Oz |
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The US has Participated since 2007 and every 4 Years there is a championship Game US has always come in 1st since they started Participating 2007 1st Place USA, 2nd Place Japan, 3rd Place Germany, 4th Place Sweden 2011 1st Place USA, 2nd Place Canada, 3rd Place Japan 4th Place Mexico 2015 1st Place USA, 2nd Place Japan, 3rd Place Mexico, 4th Place France 2015 was the Last Time a Tournament was Played None of the US Participants were On a Pro US football Team at the time they Played in the IFAF some did eventually move Up to the Pro teams after their Participation In the IFAF Australia has Played 3 times 1999 5th Place, 2011 8th Place, 2015th 5th Place Prior to 1983 Australia didn't even have Semi Pro Teams Well Until another country besides Canada actually has Pro teams (Canada has 9) But they also don't Have the same size Field as the US Teams actually 10 yards Longer For American style Football at the Professional Level, who even wins the Super Bowl in the US our the World Champions Because no other country In the world Has Professional Football teams. So, until that changes. They'll be keeping that world champions status for Professional Football, regardless if You think they are Pretenders or Not. I still think they are all little sissies with their Pads and Helmets on:biggrin2: |
Good info that , I agree with your closing comment , but that was the USA team not Kansas City
p.s. we got smashed by the Indian Cricket team , our selectors took 5 players in our touring team with injuries that in all likely-hood they would not recover from during the tour (achilles , broken finger , chronic back) go figure Oz |
Well Like I said Until there are other Professional Level Teams In other countries
which there are Not currently Then for Professional Level Sport' Following strict rules of American football 100 Yard Field,Not 110 Yard field Like the CFL. Kansas City our World Champions for Professional Level American football. If There is No other country that fields a Team to compete against at there Level. Then they are world champions in there field of Professional American Football |
Sarge you and Mr Funk and Mr Wagnall (haha) are providing me with heaps of great info however to be a World Champion 99.9% of teams represent their country
Kansas City play in a domestic competition not like The USA team that won those competitions you mentioned 2007 1st Place USA, 2nd Place Japan, 3rd Place Germany, 4th Place Sweden 2011 1st Place USA, 2nd Place Canada, 3rd Place Japan 4th Place Mexico 2015 1st Place USA, 2nd Place Japan, 3rd Place Mexico, 4th Place France So I think World Club Champions would be a more appropriate claim and title The winner of our domestic Rugby League competition just played St Helens (UK) who won and they are now World Club Champions Is there any talk of bringing back the World competition ? Oz |
There is a Miss Universe contest and the woman that wins is crowned "Miss Universe".
As far as I know, she and all the other contestants are from "this world". So how can any of them be crowned Miss Universe?? |
Without being patronizing , good question pleasure to have your input Ironman
Miss Universe is a business name , like being Mr Universe in body-building again a business name and also the contestants represent countries They firstly have to win domestic competitions then go on to win the National One other please explain is the way some commentators/reporters carried on about Rihanna was she the first pregnant women to attend or entertain at the game ???? I only saw the news report about the game/result and half-time entertainment and was totally amazed at the drivel that came out of the supposed reporters mouths Anyway go Kansas City even though 2 Australian played for Philadelphia Oz |
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Before WWII nobody else Played American Football But America That where the title actually came from and If there are No Other Professional Teams for the US to Play against guess what the winner of the Super Bowl are the world Champions for Professional football Now Maybe if Japan, Germany and Australia and Many others Had Professional American football teams but they don't so until they do The US super Bowl winner are world Champions of Professional American Football No Body is stopping other counties from starting a Professional American Football team |
Well lets hope that tournament gets off the ground
The only problem with the Professional team is the tyranny of distance in an Australian team coming over there Maybe we could have an International rules like our AFL who play against Ireland (Gaelic Football) but under International rules The American football blokes could either play our Rugby Union or Rugby League teams (no forward passes) Oz |
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Now You want Professional American football Players to Play Rugby Kind of Moving the goal Post isn't it. You're so upset because some Reporter Calls Kansas City world Champions It Just a silly sports Game who cares what they're called next year it will probably be someone else called that The men I served with in the Army and Led In War are the only people I would ever call Champions, They earned it |
Sorry , no not play Rugby but an International rules game cobbling the best out of both games
Not upset , just curious as to the sign on the bus touting World Champions As to men and women who served you have no dispute from me Thank you for your input , you have enlightened me a little into American football but as you said it is a pads and helmets game Oz |
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And, using your logic of a "business", are not the "NFL" and the "Super Bowl" business ventures? Therefore, in the world of business, you would have to conclude that the top team in the NFL and the Super Bowl winner would be the champions of "THAT" world, correct? So any claim to an area of a championship is specific to that area, or to say it another way, specific to that "world". |
Yes in the case of Mr or Miss Universe as they have competed against a number of countries representatives
No in the case of NFL/Super bowl as it is a domestic competition Also one is a business name but both are businesses slight difference We have a Football competition here in Australia called AFL or Aussie Rules the winner of that game are the Champions they do not claim to be World Champions even though it is played in the USA , UK and a few other countries To be a Champion of the World you have to beat the World not just win a local competition I think we need Perry Masons at 10 paces (hahaha) Or an impartial Judge like a Cub forum member from the UK Oz |
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There are Minor League Teams and Major League teams they do not compete against each Other In normal League Play well Semi Pro football(IFAF) is Like the Minor Leagues In baseball Professional Is Like the Major League In baseball Like Playing in armature Game league(those people are Playing for something to do or Fun they have Normal 9 to 5 Jobs) and the other team Brings in people that Play the Game for a Living and the win that Game It's consider an Unfair advantage. The IFAF will not allow U.S. professional Football Players to Play In the League based On there skill set at playing the Game of American Football So U.S. Professional Football Players can only Play against other Professional Football teams Well Nobody else In the world Has them right now. So for that Level of Play the team that wins the super Bowl Can be considered World Champions as no one else in the world Has Professional level Football Players to play against them. The CFL In Canada are consider Professional at what they Play But there field is 10 yards Longer so when a CFL team wins the Grey Cup they can be World champions at what they Play as Nobody else is Playing there Type of Foot Ball with a 110 Yard field. at One Time the CFL did have some U.S. teams IN 3 U.S. states So Until Other countries Have Professional Football teams that Play and have the same skill set & rules as the U.S. professional Football teams Your going to Have Super Bowl winners being call world Champions at Professional Level Football even if the don't Play other countries Because there is Nobody else to Play against!!! as I said earlier It just a Game That really doesn't mean much |
Spot on Sarge it is just a game , and it is just a sign but in this little black ducks opinion " a step to far "
But out of this I have learnt a lot more about American football and its intricacies so thank you What team do you support Sarge? , is it the Bears or the Cubs that are from Illinois ? Oz |
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Oz, you didn't ask me, but here's who I support....
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Other Than That Time I only watch College Football Iowa Hawkeyes when My Grandfather was alive or Bowling Green Falcons as I have a cousin that works for the College Football team in sorts medicine, or I'll watch the Army/Navy Game spent Many Years Training Cadets at West Point In the Summer. I have the Honor of Being 1 of Two E-6 staff Sergeant to have smoked (Push Up's exercise to muscle exhaustion) the entire Crop of Cadets On the Hand Grenade Range for Not following direction. There are Generals and an Admiral or Two today That would recognize My Last name Once the Bears Move to their New Home In Arlington Heights, IL (a few Years away) Then I'll watch a Bears Home Game. I Hate, Hate, Hate stepping foot In Chicago, The One Cub's Game I went to. They Lost to Tommy Lasorda and the Dodgers. Watched a Lot of Chicago White Sox Game's as My dad Had season tickets given to Him By a customer at His Bar/Tavern 3 rows Behind Home Plate When My cousin Played for the Montreal Expos and Cleveland Indians, I would try to get to those Games when I could. I say I am a Cubs Fan, But Baseball Is so Boring to Watch, I really don't pay attention anymore. My Oldest Children Twins Boy and Girl Both Played Football You heard that Football In High school In the Late 1980s My daughter was a Kicker & My son was a Quarter Back My Oldest I adopted when they were 12, and I was 23 They Had actual Been My Niece and Nephew. The parents were Killed In a Mountain Climbing accident In Switzerland, so were really Not that far apart in age. My Youngest son was a Cross country runner Like His Old Man, there is a 24-Year Gap In age between My Youngest and Oldest children. As we all say the Youngest was the smartest In sports while it was a team sport it was still Up to the Individual to do their best as One All 3 are also Good Golfers Like Myself, even though I have Barely played in the Last 20 or so years, Only Play Golf when they are in town. Even with the age gap, they're as thick as thieves But I have Managed to Usually beat them In 18 Holes My short Game is what does them in Their Better at Making it On the Green In Par but once they get on the Green I swear they are all thumbs. But really, I don't watch or Participate In sports anymore. Too Busy with My Garden tractor collection and My Garden and I still work Full Time (On Call 24/7 But work from home) I manage an IT support Company for a Friend of Mind we Have 80 service Techs all over the world In the Process of Hiring 40 More (we provide small & Medium Companies IT support) Companies that don't want to have their own IT personnel. We even support some scientists In Antarctica and companies In Your neck of the woods :ThumbsUp: |
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The tractor on the rights logo looks a bit like a team called the Magpies down here but I think it is a penguin Please supply the correct names Sarge , sounds like your team had a sensational leader and you still enjoy your sports As to golf I follow Mark Twains theory , A good walk spoiled by a little white ball Any names I would recognize that you do work for down here ? Oz |
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Made it 7 holes with a Polish Powered Golf Ball (Green Grass colored Golf Ball) Made the last Two Holes By dropping a new Ball at least 3 or 4 times convincing the Kids it was the same Ball on the Back 9. Daughter Played the coarse the next day and found a few of the Balls I Lost on the 17th and 18th Holes She Kept that secret from her Brothers for another 10 years Until I got caught cheating at pinochle with them One Holiday I convinced them the Jack of diamonds was the Jack or Harts for my run in hearts :ROTF2: |
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Ice hockey is played here as well but with so few rinks it is not widely known A green golf ball now that would sort the sheep from the goats But you have me tricked with Pinochle Have seen a news clip where one player shoulder charges another and puts him through the clear screen , always wondered whether that was a foul ? New Zealand and Australia have a very strong affinity even though they speak funny (all I are pronounced E and all E are pronounced I so sex becomes six and vice versa that aside they are a friend who live across the ditch (Tasman Sea) Oz |
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Might have been a misunderstanding , when I refer to AFL that is Australian rules football
It and Gaelic football are similar but they use a round ball whereas AFL uses an egg shape ball small like an American football Anyway it looks like the topic has shifted slightly to Green golf balls and Ice Hockey (maybe they should use a white puck) Oz |
Should have explained this a Little Better earlier
Prior to 1969 the Super Bowl was called the AFL–NFL World Championship Game Both Leagues Merged in 1966 In the USA NFL stands for National football League In USA AFL stands for American football League AFC American Football conference was formed from 10 NFL & 3 AFL teams NFC National Football conference was formed from 10 former NFL teams Today AFC is 16 teams divided Into 4 Divisions East, North, South, West NFC is 16 Teams divided Into 4 Divisions East, North, South, West NFC National Football conference Championship game receives George Halas Trophy AFC American Football conference Championship game receives Lamar Hunt Trophy But the winners of the Two conferences The AFC and NFC Play against each other IE Super Bowl today Professional American Football Leagues today in the entire World NFL consists of AFC & NFC conferences CFL Canadian Football League slightly different as the Play on 110 yard field instead of 100 Yard field Other Than USA & Canada Their are no other countries on planet Earth that have Professional level American Football Teams Since the NFL & CFL Play on different size fields they do not compete against each other NFL today which Includes the old AFL American Football League has No one else at their level of Play to compete against on planet Earth so they became World Champions In My Mind I still consider the Super Bowl as the NFL against the AFL which it is actually the NFC (originally NFL) against the AFC (Originally the AFL) But today there all under the NFL I remember when the Bears still payed at Wrigley field |
All good Sarge , I am still trying to get my head around Green golf balls next you will be telling me you play in camo or wear ghillie suits just to spice up the game
It is the only team World Championship where a city can win it every other team World title I can think of are won by countries Oz |
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Green Golfs Balls are the craziest thing I have done In golf, as long as you stay in the center of the fairway it actually wasn't too hard to do. When it's in the rough is usually when your screwed
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A guy I once worked with organized a charity 4-man scramble golf event.
There were all kinds of crazy contests within the event, but the hardest (and funniest) was that everyone had to play a tennis ball instead of a golf ball on the shortest Par 3 hole on the course. I think it was about 110 yards. Everyone tee'd up thinking they could drive a tennis ball a country mile with a golf club, but it is really just the opposite. It was a riot, everyone laughed like hell at that hole.:ROTF1: |
That is absolute Magic Sarge , I guess you could say when it went into the rough you were snookered
Ironman how did you go with the Tennis ball ? Was that a foul or just good ice hockey play when one player drove the other through the side-screen Oz |
Back to the start , I see the Texas Rangers (I think thats their name ) are now World Champions in Baseball , again who did they beat outside the USA
I do see a team from Toronto Anyway if they played a team from lets say Japan and beat them you are on your way to World Champion status Oz |
I don't think it is about international teams as much as it is about international players. A lot of players throughout the years have been from different parts of the world.
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By the way we just had an Aussie win the World Championships at a wood-chopping contest , that was the biggest chain-saw ever Oz |
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