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KK560 08-30-2024 05:33 PM

125 Hydro Issue
 
Why would my hydro work at low rpms, but when I have the engine speed up for mowing it doesn't want to move? Last week when I was mowing I was having a similar problem, if not the same, so I took the relief valves out to make sure they weren't half open, and they're fine and seem to be working properly. The filter doesn't even have 100hrs on it.

Sam Mac 08-30-2024 07:27 PM

How is the fluid level? 100 hours, how many years since both the fluid and filter have been changed? What are you running for oil and filter make and number?:bigthink:

Grandpa53 08-30-2024 08:15 PM

Make sure roll pins are intact in driveshaft

Billy-O 08-30-2024 08:36 PM

Both Sam and Grandpa have the right ideas to start. Are you leaking any fluid at all?

KK560 08-31-2024 02:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam Mac (Post 533234)
How is the fluid level? 100 hours, how many years since both the fluid and filter have been changed? What are you running for oil and filter make and number?:bigthink:

The fluid level is good. The filter was changed either late last season or early this season. The fluid was changed a year or two ago with Hytran

KK560 08-31-2024 02:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grandpa53 (Post 533235)
Make sure roll pins are intact in driveshaft

That was the first thing I checked and they seemed to be fine

KK560 08-31-2024 02:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy-O (Post 533236)
Both Sam and Grandpa have the right ideas to start. Are you leaking any fluid at all?

Nope, not leaking anything

Sam Mac 08-31-2024 06:44 AM

Filter make & part #

DSarow 08-31-2024 08:46 AM

I would change the filter and then cut and inspect the old one for any signs of parts or materials that don't belong.It sounds like you have done the most common parts to fail. Good luck,I also have and enjoy my 125

finsruskw 08-31-2024 09:01 AM

The spirol pins (what should be installed there, and not split roll pins) may look good and still be visible on either or even both sides of the coupler but still be broken internally, with one or both ends you may be able to see still stuck in the coupler.

I suggest you hold the coupler tight w/pliers and and try to spin the driveshaft while doing so with another pair of pliers or vise grips.

I have seen this issue before an 882 diesel which are hard on pins.
Both ends still in the coupler but the hydro input shaft not turning.
And when driving the old pin out, what's left of it comes out in pieces.
It may be tough lining up the coupler with the hole in the driveshaft when installing a new spirol pin, use a short length of 1/4" bolt shank to line the holes up and drive the new pin in while pushing the piece of bolt out the other side.

Good luck!

NOTE TO SELF: replace the pins in the 882 BEFORE heading to Bluneirs plow day in October!!

KK560 08-31-2024 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam Mac (Post 533240)
Filter make & part #

Not sure. It doesn't say. I'm thinking it's a Baldwin.

KK560 08-31-2024 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by finsruskw (Post 533243)
The spirol pins (what should be installed there, and not split roll pins) may look good and still be visible on either or even both sides of the coupler but still be broken internally, with one or both ends you may be able to see still stuck in the coupler.

I suggest you hold the coupler tight w/pliers and and try to spin the driveshaft while doing so with another pair of pliers or vise grips.

I have seen this issue before an 882 diesel which are hard on pins.
Both ends still in the coupler but the hydro input shaft not turning.
And when driving the old pin out, what's left of it comes out in pieces.
It may be tough lining up the coupler with the hole in the driveshaft when installing a new spirol pin, use a short length of 1/4" bolt shank to line the holes up and drive the new pin in while pushing the piece of bolt out the other side.

Good luck!

NOTE TO SELF: replace the pins in the 882 BEFORE heading to Bluneirs plow day in October!!

I did that and they seemed fine, so I took it back out and ran it without the cover and didn't notice it slipping any, but I did notice it whines a bit more in reverse than it does forward. It also didn't act up at all this time.

Is it just me, or do things always work fine whenever you're trying to diagnose a problem?

ol'George 08-31-2024 07:30 PM

Go back and read post 9
if it is not working well at higher speeds it sounds like the suction side is impeded, and that can be caused by a restricted filter or suction line or a lot of moisture and you are foaming the oil, causing cavitation.
The filter is easy to change and inexpensive ( less than a burger meal at Mickey Dees) you will not have to drain any oil and will loose very little in the filter.
Then you have eliminated that problem.
I guarantee a filter will last longer than a meal going through your digestive system.:biggrin2:

Billy-O 08-31-2024 07:32 PM

Since you don't see anything obvious, I agree with doing a filter AND oil change no matter what at this point.

For the correct filter: https://www.onlycubcadets.net/forum/showthread.php?t=12

West Valley G 08-31-2024 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ol'George (Post 533249)
Go back and read post 9
if it is not working well at higher speeds it sounds like the suction side is impeded, and that can be caused by a restricted filter or suction line or a lot of moisture and you are foaming the oil, causing cavitation.
The filter is easy to change and inexpensive ( less than a burger meal at Mickey Dees) you will not have to drain any oil and will loose very little in the filter.
Then you have eliminated that problem.
I guarantee a filter will last longer than a meal going through your digestive system.:biggrin2:

Then you will have eliminated that problem. Preach it George.:beerchug:

Ken

darkminion_17 09-01-2024 10:55 AM

Is the freewheel lever on the right side engaged? Stuck release valve?

KK560 09-19-2024 07:52 PM

I drained the oil, cleaned out the sludge, changed the filter, and refilled it. Didn't seem as responsive as usual, but also didn't have any problems. Thanks for the advice!

Ambush 09-19-2024 10:03 PM

It’s always a good idea to cut your old filter apart and inspect the element for metal. Especially if you suspect a hydro problem or have an unusual noise coming from the unit. Free diagnostics.


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