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oldrustycars 05-31-2009 09:39 AM

Rebuilt my steering box
 
I took my 124 apart to make a small weld a year ago, and it still sits. I needed to rebuild the steering box before I went further, so I actually got off my butt and did it. It was quite easy. I also did the modification I've read about here, with the thrust bearing. The only trouble I had was I couldn't find a locknut narrow enough to grab the threads once I put in the bearing and thrust washers, so I used a dab of Locktite red. I also noticed it wasn't quite as smooth as I felt it could be, I took it back apart and packed the thrust bearing with Phil Wood bicycle grease. Silky smooth now.
3 cans of Hogwash needed to clean out 40 years of cruddy grease. Now I need to dig out the soldering gun and terminals and make me up a new wiring harness.

Diz Jr. 05-31-2009 09:52 AM

Glad to here you are makeing progress oldrustycars.:ThumbsUp:
Wont be long now you will have it back in the yard.

R Bedell 05-31-2009 11:10 AM

On the Nut for the Lever Assembly, you can use either a double 5/8" NF Jam Nuts or a regular NyLock Nut.

oldrustycars 05-31-2009 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by R Bedell (Post 4691)
On the Nut for the Lever Assembly, you can use either a double 5/8" NF Jam Nuts or a regular NyLock Nut.

Thats what I thought, R, but theres barely enough for just the one jam nut with the Nice 605 thrust bearing, and two proper thrust washers. Even with only one washer, not enough room. I went through the hardware stores large Hillman bolt bins, with my calipers, nothing thin enough. Nylock or Stover, the lock didn't reach the threads. Everything is cinched up real good, just not enough thread. Do you foresee a problem with the Loctite?

aagitch 05-31-2009 07:54 PM

with that upgrade, you should only be using one nylock nut

Merk 05-31-2009 08:37 PM

I use this style thrust bearing.
http://www.mcmaster.com/#thrust-bearings/=24b0wk

Here is the the thrust bearing set up on my 70 steering:
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...Dick/UD105.jpg
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...Dick/UD100.jpg

Jeff0862 05-31-2009 08:46 PM

I had the same problem when I rebuilt my steering box. I took the nylon lock nut and put it in a vice then cut it in half with a reciipicating saw. It shortened it enough that I was able to thread it on and lock it tight.

oldrustycars 05-31-2009 09:09 PM

http://www.kirkengines.com/Steering%20Upgrade.jpg
I used this setup. The bearing is thicker than the original jam nut. I used the correct Primer N along with Loctite Red to keep the nut on, it seems like it's on to stay. But I'm glad to see someone else had the same issue, I "almost" clamped a Stover nut in the vise and ground it to half thickness.

murphycc 05-31-2009 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Merk (Post 4696)


Merk do you have a part number for the needle bearing?


Scott

dross 06-05-2009 11:21 AM

Murphy, Let us know how long that open bearing lasts. Please don't think this is a "dig" I am curious.

Merk 06-05-2009 03:32 PM

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by murphycc
Merk do you have a part number for the needle bearing?
Part number for bearing. (McMaster-Carr part numbers:
http://www.mcmaster.com/#)
bearing: 5909K32 Price-$2.66
Washer: 5909K45 Price-$.95 each-need 2
Locknut: 92501A030 Price-$9.90 for 100 pcs

Any good hardware store like ACE should have them.

Sorry for not responding sooner.

Merk 06-05-2009 03:39 PM

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by dross
Murphy, Let us know how long that open bearing lasts. Please don't think this is a "dig" I am curious.
Dross-Good point. I don't consider your statement a dig.
The only way to know is give a try. It will be an easy change if it doesn't hold up. Not know how everyone's work looks...I'm only working 32 hours a week. I've been looking for ways to make and save a few $$$.

nathans 09-15-2009 08:19 AM

Oldrustycars, do you have a part numbers for your setup?

oldrustycars 09-15-2009 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by nathans (Post 10324)
Oldrustycars, do you have a part numbers for your setup?

http://cubfaq.com/steeringrebuild.html
the bearing is available at any bearing supply, like Motion Industries. The thrust washers at any good hardware store. Don't use flat washers, get proper thrust washers, they are ground perfectly flat. Any parts in the box are available at any Cub Cadet dealer.

vr4Legacy 05-19-2016 08:27 AM

Curious to see how well your upgrade worked with the needle bearing.

Bob95065 05-19-2016 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Merk (Post 4696)

I did the same thing n my 1450 a couple of years ago and on my 1000 a couple of months ago. They are holding up fine so far...

Merk 05-20-2016 05:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vr4Legacy (Post 376495)
Curious to see how well your upgrade worked with the needle bearing.

It has been 7 years since I restored my 70. I haven't had any problems with that set up. Just finish spraying the yard.

vr4Legacy 05-20-2016 08:34 AM

Great. with the light load on the steering box, I couldn't see it being an issue.

I might do this next. Thanks for the pics and links to part numbers.

R Bedell 05-20-2016 08:51 AM

Dale:

I have a question. What about dust/dirt getting into that roller bearings...??
:bigthink:

vr4Legacy 05-20-2016 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R Bedell (Post 376676)
Dale:

I have a question. What about dust/dirt getting into that roller bearings...??
:bigthink:

With the washers and the nut down tight, how much could really get through?

Merk 05-20-2016 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R Bedell (Post 376676)
Dale:

I have a question. What about dust/dirt getting into that roller bearings...??
:bigthink:

Good question....
I didn't have a good answer.....time for a few pictures.
This is what the steering box looks like today that was done 7 years ago:
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...psemnfl7tn.jpg
Closer view:
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...psplsr3yrt.jpg
There was a little grease around the lever and bolt assembly:
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...ps9opbf91d.jpg
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...psof2jm37x.jpg

The 70 is the most used IH Cub Cadet I have. I do not use this Cub to mow the grass or plow snow. To the best of my knowledge I never done any cleaning around the steering box.

I sprayed parts of my yard Wednesday and Thursday. The 70 steered just as easy today as it did when I rebuilt it 7 years ago.


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