Picked up a 2182 SGT
 

Found this on CL and brought it home yesterday. The front grille section is broke where it mounts to the frame but the side panels are good, I'll be contacting the sponsers for some replacement parts. It doesn't run and hasn't for a while. The owner purchased this tractor about 5 or 6 years ago and soon after that it had problems with the rear. He took it to the local dealer and spent $1800 on getting it repaired. He wasn't sure what they did and said if he could find the dealer invoice he would send it to me. It looks like the axle carriers are new and the case has been opened. I'm thinking that the rear came loose and that's why they changed them. He told me that after he got it back and a few hours of mowing grass that there was a noise coming from the front of the engine so he hauled it back to the dealer. They told him that it needed another $480 in parts for a new pto clutch. He didn't have them do it, brought it back home and parked it under his deck and didn't use it much, found something else he wanted and decided to sell it.

Nice score on the 2182, Oak! :ThumbsUp:

Congrats! I know you've been wanting one for a while now. Looks like a good project to keep you out of trouble for a couple weeks or so.:biggrin2: I'm looking forward to your progress!

OAK,
Nice find. Please let us know some more about the gas motor when you get it running. I have been thinking about putting that same engine in my 1872. A diesel would be nice but I like to be different. I have heard that they run real smooth. They are supposed to be the same bottom end as the diesel. so I would have to think that running on gas they would last about forever.

I know Patton has the parts you need , He just had one there. I need to call him and make sure he doesn't sell that engine just yet.

What a cool find, it's kinda neat to see it with the side panels and the front off, amazing how much they cram in there.

Great find, Oak! Looking forward to seeing it brought back to life.

When I looked at the pictures, I assumed it was a diesel. I'm not familiar with this engine......can someone tell me more about it? Thanks

It's a 3 cylinder, liquid cooled, 21 HP gasoline engine. Kubota model WG600B.

I learned something too. Was not aware of a 3 cyl. gas engine. Very cool.

That pipe makes it look like Diesel engine.

I love the looks of those pipes especially when pointed straight up instead of forwards.

I agree with that!:beerchug:

That's pretty cool. I'm curious what the fuel consumption is like. I've heard that engine really drinks gas.

Those axle tubes are interesting. They appear to be a different design that what it would have originally come with, unless the super cyclops tractors had different axle tubes or something.

That is a pretty cool find. I, too agree it's amazing the engines put in these cubs. On that hydro, is that silicone on the gasket or just the gasket? I've always heard that RTV silicone and hydros are a no-no. Those axle housings do look beefy. Nice find:beerchug:.

Great find! I didn't know that the engine was gas!

That is some type of RTV sticking out and I was thinking the same thing about them using it. I will get some more shots of the carriers to see if they changed something. Does anybody know why they put these engines in these tractors when they were using the D-640 diesel at the same time? I would think that they were close in price but I would rather have had a diesel if I were buying it new.

I wondered the same thing a few years ago. I bought a JD 322 that had a Yanmar gas engine in it. I was told it was a diesel block. Of course I sold it but have always wondered why they would do that.

You will like that engine, the Yanmar I had ran smooth and quite with a lot of power and I would expect this to be no different.

Well, I got a chance to work on it today and it runs great. Needs some fine tunning but I'm just happy it runs. The engine is very smooth and the hydro and steering work great too. The wiring is a mess but I guess thats typical on a cyclops. Does anybody make new wiring harness for these?

Todd have you checked Porch Electric yet? They are pricey but well worth it. They have ebay auctions if not you can get them thru their web site.

http://www.porchelectric.com/Home.html

Looks like the bearings in the PTO are shot.

I hope I can just replace the bearing like I did on my 1811 for under $20.

Sgt d
 

I'm curious why they offered it as well. With the 20 and 22 HP Kohlers, what was the need for 3 cylinder 21? Did they want to offer liquid cooling for those that prefer it, can't imagine it's a major market?

I wonder what the torque rating of that engine is as compared to the Koher twins.

They were trying to test the waters and compete with Deere. In the early 90's Deere had a liquid cooled 3 cyl Yanmar in their 300 series (322) garden tractors and liquid cooled Kawasaki V-Twins in their 400 series Super Garden Tractors (425 and 445). So Cub Cadet came out with the 2182 with a 21 HP 3 cyl liquid cooled Kubota engine in 1990, and the 2086 with the 20 HP liquid cooled Kawasaki V-twin. I'd much rather have a Cyclops with those motors than a Command IMO.

I'm curious, why? I haven't run a liquid cooled garden tractor so wondering what the advantages are.

That is cool,i have never seen a 3 cylinder gas like that either,seems it might be a little hard to get parts for though,or at least expensive$$:bigthink:

re: fuel consumption
In my opinion fuel use is very low. Only two tanks for a winter of snowblowing. By the way I live in minnesota and we have had a little snow this year. This is the first year with the new machine and a 451 snowblower, otherwise it was done with our 1250 and a single stage.

For one, it is a heck a lot eaiser to maintain. Think about cleaning the cooling fins on a air cooled motor. To have to remove all the shrouds to do it, and unless you have arms as thick as a pencil, you might as well remove the engine to get everything. With a liquid cooled motor, you drain, flush, and re-fill the coolant and clean the radiator fins with a fin comb, how easy and simple is that?

Liquid cooling has many advantages. Extended engine life is a big one. They run quieter and can usually be made to produce more power than than a comparably sized air cooled engine. If an engine runs hotter, it wears out faster. It is much easier to overheat an air cooled engine. And, as was stated previously, lower fuel consumption.

Liquid cooling is desirable on multi-cylinder engines b/c all cylinders can be maintained at a constant temperature. Think about this particular inline 3-cyl engine. If it were air-cooled, the middle cylinder is going to run hotter than the two outer cylinders b/c it has less surface area exposed to the outside air flow. Once again, engine longevity, that middle cylinder will wear the rings/cylinder faster.

Thanks John, good explanation. I guess I know some of the basics of liquid vs. air cooled, and you answered a few more. I didn't know you could get more power output, didn't know fuel consumption was less. I also hadn't thought about the 3 cylinder problem with heat.

I'd still wonder about the advantages vs. a twin of similar power. I'd like a quieter engine, but would have to hear it to understand how much quieter it really is. I run 3 Kohler Commands right now, an 18 and two 20's. I expect a minimum of 1,500 hours out of them, I'd say more from the 3204 that we bought new since we've always maintained it, the other 2 I bought with a lot of hours already on them so a bit more of an unknown. At the rate I run a tractor those engines will last a very long time!

While I realize there isn't anything complex about liquid cooling, it is one more system, one more fluid, one more pump to maintain.

I guess I just need to find someone local who has one so I can compare. I'm interested in finding a diesel so I might end up with liquid cooling there anyway.

Just to give you one other illustration about the power advantage of liquid cooling, look at the motorcycle industry (and b/c it's another of my favorite hobbies). Motorcycles have traditionally been air cooled. The lastest generation of fast motorcycles are water cooled. There are 1000cc engines putting out 160 hp and these aren't race engines. Racing motorcycles in MotoGP (Grand Prix racing) are getting 200+ hp out of 1000 cc. Most modern air cooled production motorcycle engines of 1000cc put out a little over 100hp.

Now obviously the power differential on small engines like in our tractors is not going to be as great, but it gives you an idea. And like you said, it adds extra parts and fluid and cost to the tractor.

Todd any updates on your progress?

Duke, after I got it running I parked it in the barn. Now that its warming up and the days are getting longer I need to finish my 126 that has been in pieces for over a year. After I complete that, I will tear into the 2182.

Sounds like you've got a plan!