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inspectorudy 07-04-2011 12:37 PM

How to add power steering
 
I'm sorry to put this thread up again but I can't find my original question that I posted last night under someone else's thread. I have the three turn steering and it is very easy when loosened but with too much slop and very hard to turn when tightened but no slop. The middle of the two leaves me with a moderate hard to steer tractor with still a bit of slop. I was wondering if it is feasable and is it worth it to convert to ps. I believe the 1811's are the same class as the '82 series. Have any of you done this conversion? Was it worth it? Thanks.

aagitch 07-04-2011 04:20 PM

I've heard of some putting power steerting from a super on the regular gts but you would have to do some modifications. If your steering is hard to steer with little to no slop then something is wrong.

_DX3_ 07-04-2011 06:41 PM

Have you rebuilt your steering gear box and added the super steering upgrade and steering shaft bearing? If not I suggest you do this first then decide if you need power steering. I can turn my 784 with just the palm of my hand and it is very smooth.

Methos 07-04-2011 07:34 PM

Maybe this will help you some.

http://www.onlycubcadets.net/forum/s...power+steering

inspectorudy 07-04-2011 08:36 PM

steering box upgrade
 
I did put in the up grade and it helped some but I'm afraid it might be the steering worm gear that's worn out. I might try to loosen up the bottom ;screw that closes up the steering box and see if I got it too tight. Although when the side screw is loosened it is very easy to trun but too sloppy to drive. If I could find an x82 ps system would it be a bolt on or would I have to fabricate a lot of parts? Does the ps system use the tranny pump and fluid to run it? Any advice would be great.

TheSaturnV 07-05-2011 03:49 AM

I'd second the notion that something else is wrong with your steering. My 882 turns easily when sitting still (although I don't do that much at all) and effortlessly when moving.

Matt G. 07-05-2011 04:11 PM

Set the toe-in as per the manual...if that's out of whack, the steering force is increased.

Merk 07-05-2011 04:50 PM

Did you rebuild the steering box?

Did you replace the cam follower in the steering box? It sounds like your cam follower has flat spots on it.

How much air pressure is in the front tires? Low air pressure will make your cub hard to steer.

How old is the grease in the steering box?

inspectorudy 07-06-2011 01:52 AM

steering
 
Thanks for all of the inputs. I did rebuild the steering about 6 months ago. I took it off the tractor today and went over everything in the unit that could be checked and it looks like it just had sort of got loosened by use. I tightened everything up added new grease and set the cam follower to a good depth. It steers very precisely but there is still some play that appears to be in the "New" tie rod ends that I bought on ebay. The steering plate that moves when the wheel is turned has almost no play in it. But the tie rod ends not only move fore and aft but up and down as well. I will need to get some that are far more precise than the ones I bought. Any name brand suggestions? The ones I bought were 4 for $18. I've seen some for about $10each that had Zerk fittings on them. I just checked the air last week and it seemed like the 10 pound psi label was a little low to me. I might bump it up to 12 psi. I seem to have cured what ever it was but cannot tell you what it was I cured. I did notice that the big bottom screw was a tad looser than I had set it and the guy who sold me the rebuild kit said to treat the big screw like you would a wheel bearing. Tighten it snug and then back off about a quarter turn or cotter hole which ever comes first. I also might need to test the toe in and see if I over adjusted it when I put the new tie rod ends on this spring. I know on a car this can make the steering do evil things. Thanks again for your help.

Oak 07-06-2011 07:18 AM

Rudy, I use part # 6058k28 from McMaster-Carr for the tie rod ends. You will also need some nylon lock nuts because these rod ends are not drilled for a pin and I tighten mine up tight. I think some people use part #60645k441.


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