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Nomadist 01-02-2012 05:52 PM

QA36A attaching to a 102
 
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I got my 102 running real well and want it to run my QA36A snowthrower. I've adjusted my attachment bracket inwards to fit the narrow frame. My issue is the bolt holes don't align to allow attachment, and there is no quick attach feature on the 102. So, do I just have the wrong setup entirely, or is there a bracket I need, or some modification to the blower bracket that needs to be made... Regarding the picture indicating the frankenstein bolt (or whatever it's called), even if there were a fr. bolt there, the bolt wouldn't align with open end of bracket... I did download the manual, and it doesn't show how to attach to the NF. Suggestions? Here's some pics for reference:
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lwrehm 01-02-2012 07:34 PM

I ran into a similar issue last year, based on everything I found there is nobody who could tell me for sure if the QA-xxA snowthrowers could mount on all the narrow frames.

With input from here and other boards, I put together a psudo-frankenstein bolt that uses the existing holes. I will post a pic when I figure out what I'm doing.

But to answer 2 of your questions, Yes, a bolt goes where you indicate in the picture, and yes that pin should be welded there.

lwrehm 01-02-2012 07:46 PM

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Basically its a piece of 1/4" flat stock with a bolt welded where the frankenstein bolt would be and cut off, holes to match up with the holes in the frame. Then there is a shorter piece of the 1/4" flat stock and a 1/8" piece of flat stock to give the clearence for the QA mount. THen the front end of the QA mount is bolted in place.

The only problem I had was getting nuts and washers on the bolts without pulling the engine, it was cold when I did it and I just wanted it done.

Let me know if you need more info.

R Bedell 01-02-2012 08:28 PM

The 102 utilized "bolt on" front implements. The appropriate snowthrower for that model and time was the CC-36/42.

Thus, if you are using a newer snowthrower on a older tractor, then go to the Implement Tech Library Section, on page #2, and look for the Operator's Manual for the QAxx Series of Snowthrowers and follow the instructions.

lwrehm 01-02-2012 08:58 PM

The problem with using the proceedures for the QA-xx snowthrowers is the "pin" that is welded to the mounting bracket. In order to bolt the bracket to the frame you would need to cut off and drill out that pin and use a longer bolt to attach the bar that usually is attached to that pin. Like Roland says, the QA-xxA was not made for the 102.

I spent 3 months looking for this information last year, dozens of posts to every Cub Cadet BB that I could find, including an hour or so at Madson's in St Nazianz, WI. I didn't like the idea of modifying the bracket in case I got a new tractor that could use the QA-42A that I have. Glad I did, I just got a 147 a couple weeks ago and hopefully next winter I will use that for snow duty. I just have not had the time to get it running.

Nomadist 01-02-2012 11:02 PM

I thought that would be the case... Thanks for the info. I do not want to modify the frame or thrower, however I want to use this tractor for throwing... Perhaps I'll design something utilizing existing holes and some kind of bracket.
Thx!

R Bedell 01-03-2012 06:34 AM

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Attached, is the differences between the two mounting frames. If you exam the image, you will see the extra holes in the upper image for the "bolt on" feature. Those holes don't appear to be there in the QAxxA image. I am guessing by the time the QAxxA came around, the IH engineers felt there was no need to provide these holes for the older tractors. It looks like you may have to add the 938-3001 Shoulder Bolt or drill you own mounting holes.

ricks 01-03-2012 08:53 AM

Roland, not wanting to step on toes here, but does the CC-36 mounting frame look like the QA- frame? You said the 102 utilizes the CC-36 snowthrower. Now I'm confused. What year narrow frame did they change to the QA- thrower?

R Bedell 01-03-2012 09:09 AM

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No toes stepped on. It has been a learning experience for me to.

First, the 102 was made from 8/65 to 11/67.

Here are the run of snowthrowers.....

* CC-36/42 Series - '66 to '68
* QA-36/42 Series - '68 to '71
* QA-A 36/42 Series - '72 to '80

Nomadist 01-03-2012 09:44 AM

That clears things up quite a bit and makes sense - I bought the thower from a guy who used it on his 108, so it definitely was designed for newer tractors.
Thanks Much!


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