New cat 0 idea
 

I'm wanting to make this to make hills and rows for seeds and hilling with a trench for seeds. Please forgive my rough drawing, my goal was to make a pic that wil show how it would look once built. The pics show what I've got to work with. I saved these from the scrap yard a while back. It will be adjustable with the brackets in the pics. I'll be able to raise or lower or remove each section by adding or removing parts as needed for the task at hand.:bigthink:

Parts I have on hand to use. The parts on the right would allow me to choose the width of the planting furrow.
Attachment 22185

Bracket side view.
Attachment 22186

Bracket top view.
Attachment 22187

How I have it set up to make a hill with a planting furrow at the same time. Without the two sides attached I could make a planting furrow.
Attachment 22190

How the cat0 would look. Rough drawing please over look it just trying to get you to see what it would look like once built. Not to scale!:biggrin2:
Attachment 22191

To be able to "hill" living plants (and keep them living) your completed rig will have to be much wider.

It is tough to keep a tractor on row, especially a rear mounted devise. You will need extra width for tolerance while driving.

Looking forward while tilling/hilling behind you is not an easy or natural thing, kind of like backing up a steering axle wagon!! :bigthink:

The other thing that happens is one hiller shoe will hit a hard or high spot, shifting the entire tool bar to the opposite side, sending the other hiller shoe right into the row!!

Our cultivator had a disc (like the coulter on a moldboard plow) that was rigid mounted to help resist the inevitable side force and the side float of the 3 point hitch.

It helps to start with precision planted rows that are VERY straight, then following the rows becomes easier.

And no hills or grade, the cultivator will just want to go down hill!! :bigthink:

I have thought about something like what you are designing, I think it would be easier to reverse the hiller shoe positioning, and drive the tractor between the rows rather than straddle the row.

Then a rig like this;

http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/...032640x476.jpg

with your hiller shoes at the outside would be perfect.

Starting with what you have, simply make a tool bar that is CAT "0", almost as wide as the tractor, that the tools can be connected to.

The nice thing about running between the rows is that you can tractor cultivate/hill much taller/older plants.

Just my opinion, as I have only cultivated soybeans.

CAD thanks for your input. It makes sense to me.

I got thinking about this morning the planting furrow would need to be set back some to allow it to do it's job.:bigthink:

Still planing before I go spending money on steel.:biggrin2:

I'm looking forward to this, Duke!

This might be sacrilege :bash: But I'll mention it anyways-- IH F-cubs were built for this kind of work. They are perfect for hilling and cultivating. The plus is, the transmission is identical to the Cadet 3 speeds

I sure think its worth the try. I do think rolling discs/coulters would be better for the hilling. They should be less inclined to hop around. Mounted so they can be moved closer or further apart may be nice also. I make raised beds of 20" wide x 4 " high for the onions. A tin Vee plate could be attached to level the top of the hill?? I have borrowed one, hope to make our own.

You know you have to make two of those if you get it right don't you? :biggrin2:

I don't know how much it would cost, but the opening discs on any modern planter would make a great furrow. Put a couple of discs on either side (or cultivator shoes like you have) and you've got it made in the shade. But, what couldn't we do with unlimited budgets?:bigthink: Good luck - looks like a sweet project!

Me too!:biggrin2:

No space for a Farmall cub in my garage. To many cubs and parts and kids toys!:biggrin2:

Why two?:bigthink:

Todd aka Oak sent me the info to a CL listing for these but at $325 it's out of my budget.:bash2: One could be made for lots less tho!