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1811woody 03-15-2013 10:44 AM

1862 steering to 1863 fit
 
Hi guys its been awhile since I've been here I hope all are doing well ! My last post were about the time I obtained a 1863 and the question is about that same tractor. I have a chance to pick up a 1862 for parts what I wanted to do was install the power steering onto my 1863 can you tell me if its a direct bolt on? Also the 1862 has the 18 hp magnum not running what do you suppose that is worth? is 250.00 a good price for a parts tractor minus the deck, mule drive, rear end?
Thanks Doug

Frank1541 03-15-2013 01:15 PM

1811Woody,

I did the PS conversion on my 1541. At the same time I converted the front axle assembly to the version on the 1863/4. The change is pretty easy. All the needed parts may on the 1862 (assuming it is complete). You may have to get different lines that come out of the charge pump. I don't have the 1863 in my parts book so I don't know if the pump is the same. The 1862 and 1864 do have the same pump in the book I have. Should not be too expensive if do need them.

You will most likely have to remove the dash tower. I would do it no matter what just to make the needed room to do everything right. Check the ball ends on the PS cylinder, they do wear out.

$250 for the PS alone is an OK deal. That is usually what they get on eBay for that.

Good Luck and take pictures.

Oak 03-15-2013 05:48 PM

An 1863 has a Hydro-Gear pump and I don't know if that will cause a problem or not.

1811woody 03-16-2013 12:50 AM

Ok thanks guys I guess I thought if I had the steering column /box and the lines and cylinder it would be a direct bolt up. The 1863 already has the hydraulic lift so I figured it would have the same pump. Now I'm nervous about buying the parts tractor.

Sam Mac 03-16-2013 06:55 AM

Woody

I think it would work. If you already have the hydro lift it should be able to run the steering.

Frank1541 03-16-2013 09:50 AM

1811Woody,

You can't go wrong if the parts tractor is $250. You can sell the PS parts for that much. I did some looking at the 1863 vs the 1864 and it looks like the conversion is more complicated then I thought. The two models use different pumps that have different plumbing for the hydro lines. The conversion can be done. But it would require fabricating new hydro connections from the pump to the PS unit. Personally I would do it if I was in your position. PS is a great feature in my book, especially for snow throwing. Having the 1862 pump would make this a lot easier of course.

Maybe some of the other members can help. I do not know the 1863 that well.

Mcamp 03-16-2013 10:37 AM

I would not put power steering on a tractor with a Hydro Gear pump. The Sunstrand pumps were used for PS tractors and all supers .

1811woody 03-16-2013 11:26 AM

buy or not?
 
Come to think of it he said he would leave the pump, he's just taking the rear end. The motor doesn't run the starter or solenoid is bad, so I have no idea if anything is any good. He says it turns over buy hand and it feels like it has compression. It sure is a risky deal what do you think buy or leave it alone?

Mike McKown 03-16-2013 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by 1811woody (Post 180808)
Come to think of it he said he would leave the pump, he's just taking the rear end. The motor doesn't run the starter or solenoid is bad, so I have no idea if anything is any good. He says it turns over buy hand and it feels like it has compression. It sure is a risky deal what do you think buy or leave it alone?

Maybe you could just give him your pump and differential and he could leave his in the tractor? Your problem would be solved.

1811woody 03-16-2013 12:07 PM

That's an option I could consider. I could also just buy it and if I decide not to use it I could sell it and make a few bucks


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