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garnold 12-15-2013 08:54 PM

old 4wd tractors?
 
So is there some old school brand of tractor that is 4wd? Old like our IH tractors. I saw this and thought it would be cool but wow very expensive. Thought there might be some old school tractor that might be fun to rebuild.Steiner 430 MAX

bocephus1991 12-15-2013 10:33 PM

Here is a video of an old Massey Harris 4wd from the 1930's I think.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dP0rr85QERE

garnold 12-16-2013 09:53 AM

Wow that is cool. I was also hoping for something more like an older cub size tractor that came in 4wd. Was there anything back in the day that came in 4wd that was built cub strong that folks find and restore?

Muzzy 12-16-2013 10:05 AM

If IH built some 4wd cub cadets, could you imagine what they'd be worth now? $$$$$$$$$0000000000000000

garnold 12-16-2013 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Muzzy (Post 231665)
If IH built some 4wd cub cadets, could you imagine what they'd be worth now? $$$$$$$$$0000000000000000

Very good point. Guess even if they did I would have to be looking at someone else's here on OCC :bash2:

J-Mech 12-16-2013 10:34 AM

Yes, there were tractors like that built. But none that are easy to find, or that were made in the US that I am aware of.

There are some pics, and some mentioned in this thread.....
http://www.onlycubcadets.net/forum/s...ad.php?t=28790

garnold 12-16-2013 10:56 AM

Thanks for the info on this :)

johncub7172 12-16-2013 11:27 AM

Old as I could find,...
 
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Another experimental tractor built over the International 8-16 chassis was this four wheel drive prototype. Obviously Harvester was looking for a radically new tractor design to counter the raging competition. The heavyweight tractor market had collapsed from its own weight, but even the design shown here did not reach the assembly lines. It is obviously of early vintage as noted by the old style exhaust mounted vertically next to the radiator, probably about 1918.

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On a side note, I found this interesting. The famous ball bearing crankshaft featured in the 10-20 and 15-30 McCormick-Deering tractors is shown here. These main bearings were guaranteed for the life of the tractor, and indeed, replacements were rare. Gone was the ever-present problem of adjusting the main bearings, and as a bonus, friction was substantially reduced. Due to the heavy dimensions of the crankshaft, a center main was unnecessary.

Now how come they don't make then this good anymore? All this information came from: 150 Years of International Harvester . By Charles H. Wendel, copyright 1981. Library of Congress 81-65316 . ISBN number : 0-912612-18-5 .

I recommend this book for the IH tractor enthusiast, and has all of EVERYTHING IH ever made up to date, including the War Production, and a page of the IH Cub Cadet equipment and line up.

thanks

garnold 12-16-2013 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johncub7172 (Post 231680)
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Another experimental tractor built over the International 8-16 chassis was this four wheel drive prototype. Obviously Harvester was looking for a radically new tractor design to counter the raging competition. The heavyweight tractor market had collapsed from its own weight, but even the design shown here did not reach the assembly lines. It is obviously of early vintage as noted by the old style exhaust mounted vertically next to the radiator, probably about 1918.

http://i40.tinypic.com/jzglz5.jpg[/IMG

On a side note, I found this interesting. The famous ball bearing crankshaft featured in the 10-20 and 15-30 McCormick-Deering tractors is shown here. These main bearings were guaranteed for the life of the tractor, and indeed, replacements were rare. Gone was the ever-present problem of adjusting the main bearings, and as a bonus, friction was substantially reduced. Due to the heavy dimensions of the crankshaft, a center main was unnecessary.

Now how come they don't make then this good anymore? All this information came from: 150 Years of International Harvester . By Charles H. Wendel, copyright 1981. Library of Congress 81-65316 . ISBN number : 0-912612-18-5 .

I recommend this book for the IH tractor enthusiast, and has all of EVERYTHING IH ever made up to date, including the War Production, and a page of the IH Cub Cadet equipment and line up.

thanks

Holy cow this is great stuff! I'm going to have to dig up this book :)

ACecil 12-16-2013 11:31 AM

Thanks for sharing, John!


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