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CadenceWildBeast 09-16-2015 09:20 AM

Twin 17 Barn Find
 
Greeting Gents. So was digging around in my late grandparents farm last night and i came across an old Kohler that had Twin 17 on it. Now i believe with the little digging i have done that it is a KT17? Please correct me if i am wrong. So I am doing a resto mod type deal in a 127 that i picked up. wanting to eventually do a pfengineering loader and backhoe setup. Thinking that the Twin 17 might be a nice upgrade in power plant if its not too difficult of transplant. Hoping that the vast knowledge here could tell me if that a decent idea or if that's even a good motor. I know the K301 is pretty stinking stout little guy so want something that not going to be a lemon either. Thoughts and Comments please? :bigthink:

j4c11 09-16-2015 10:01 AM

Does it run?

R Bedell 09-16-2015 10:38 AM

The 127 is what is considered a "narrow frame" tractor. It would require a lot of modifying to install a KT-17 into a NF tractor. The KT-17 would be better suited for Cub's WF (wide frame) tractors. The WF tractors started with the 1x8/9 Series and newer.

CadenceWildBeast 09-16-2015 10:48 AM

Condition is completely unknown and not even sure if it is complete. Just spotted off in a corner and can't get to it yet. I know that it't a narrow frame so that there will probably need to be some work done to make this happen, but looking to see if the frame would been notched a bit, or if cut away completely and fab in a new section those kinds of things. I have seen alot of repowers on here, but searching didn't net me anything this morning to looking to try to get the scope of the task.

Sam Mac 09-16-2015 11:12 AM

Just my 2 cents but I wouldn't do a re-power with a KT17. The engine you have is a much better engine and it has enough power.

cubcadet 09-16-2015 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Sam Mac (Post 345778)
Just my 2 cents but I wouldn't do a re-power with a KT17. The engine you have is a much better engine and it has enough power.

Agreed:beerchug:

olds45512 09-16-2015 11:24 AM

If your planning to put a loader and backhoe on it then the stock engine will have more than enough power, all that extra power will be useless on a loader tractor. Also if you planning to run a loader I'd avoid chopping the frame all up to fit the 17 as it will weaken the frame.

CadenceWildBeast 09-16-2015 11:39 AM

Thanks guys this is the kind of input that I am looking for. I have just seen some vids on youtube of the loader/backhoe combos and it seems as if the engine struggles alot. With that said tho the guy that designed those said he did it on a 12hp cadet so not sure what to think. Just happened to come across that and figured if was a good option let see what the ppl know. Keep it coming.

a3v03v0 10-05-2015 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by CadenceWildBeast (Post 345782)
Thanks guys this is the kind of input that I am looking for. I have just seen some vids on youtube of the loader/backhoe combos and it seems as if the engine struggles alot. With that said tho the guy that designed those said he did it on a 12hp cadet so not sure what to think. Just happened to come across that and figured if was a good option let see what the ppl know. Keep it coming.

The motor on my Kwik-Way towable backhoe is 7HP @ 4000RPM and the makers suggested not to run it full throttle. This backhoe is a bit larger than one would fit to your tractor.

The limiting factor is weight and traction rather than the engine. When the digging gets tough it is best done with the bucket curl as it is the strongest on this and most backhoes. With some practice I have gotten fairly good at digging without a tractor attached. This frees up the loader for moving the dirt away.

yeeter 10-05-2015 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by a3v03v0 (Post 347698)

The limiting factor is weight and traction rather than the engine.

This is my experience. I have a 149 (14Hp) with a loader and it runs it just fine.


Quote:

Originally Posted by a3v03v0 (Post 347698)
With some practice I have gotten fairly good at digging without a tractor attached. This frees up the loader for moving the dirt away.

What? :HeadScratch: Do you mean using a shovel...?


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