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bfowler88 08-24-2017 08:42 AM

Single cylinder kohler 14HP or 16HP in a 682?
 
Hi guys, I need an engine for my 682 and most say not to bother with the KT17. I was thinking why not swap in a single cylinder 16hp engine from a 1650 or even a 14hp single from a 1450? They are both wide frames so it seems like it would be a easy swap. Let me know what you think. Seems like I could find those much easier and cheaper then a newer KT17 or magnum 18 etc....

olds45512 08-24-2017 09:19 AM

It will work but it will have noticable vibration compared to a twin cylinder, I have a 1211 which is basically a 782 with a 12hp single and it's definitely not as smooth as twin but is tolerable in my opinion.

bfowler88 08-24-2017 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by olds45512 (Post 430944)
It will work but it will have noticable vibration compared to a twin cylinder, I have a 1211 which is basically a 782 with a 12hp single and it's definitely not as smooth as twin but is tolerable in my opinion.

Yea the vibration don't bother me, The 106 doesn't bother me so I'm sure it would be fine. Will the electric pto clutch bolt right up and the driveshaft also or is some modification going to be required? thanks!

ol'George 08-24-2017 10:56 AM

If you are patient, you will find a good series 2 or magnum.
Do not wast your $$ on a series 1 as a replacement.
I have 2 spare magnums, one I built from parts and another that was given to me by a wonderful member here.
They are not for sale, but just proving they are out there, craigs list, epay and others.
Hopefully other members here will post what cub models will fit, I think the cyclops series will fit and if you are willing to go with the newer "V" twin style, there are retrofit kits but they are a little pricy for some ppl but there are also used ones.

olds45512 08-24-2017 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by bfowler88 (Post 430966)
Yea the vibration don't bother me, The 106 doesn't bother me so I'm sure it would be fine. Will the electric pto clutch bolt right up and the driveshaft also or is some modification going to be required? thanks!

The most noticable difference between the 106 and the 682 is all the extra sheet metal on the 682, once the sheet metal starts vibrating it gets pretty loud. I spent some time on my 1211 trying to reduce it as much as possible and have it to the point where it's completely tolerable.

bfowler88 08-24-2017 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ol'George (Post 430967)
If you are patient, you will find a good series 2 or magnum.
Do not wast your $$ on a series 1 as a replacement.
I have 2 spare magnums, one I built from parts and another that was given to me by a wonderful member here.
They are not for sale, but just proving they are out there, craigs list, epay and others.
Hopefully other members here will post what cub models will fit, I think the cyclops series will fit and if you are willing to go with the newer "V" twin style, there are retrofit kits but they are a little pricy for some ppl but there are also used ones.

The retrofit kits are out of the question for now, I cant see paying that much for a mower engine. I have seen the magnums online but they are 4-500 plus. Maybe I will get lucky ........

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Originally Posted by olds45512 (Post 430968)
The most noticable difference between the 106 and the 682 is all the extra sheet metal on the 682, once the sheet metal starts vibrating it gets pretty loud. I spent some time on my 1211 trying to reduce it as much as possible and have it to the point where it's completely tolerable.

I guess the extra metal would cause more vibration, how did you reduce the noise?

Leadslingingdaddy 08-24-2017 11:14 AM

Watch for other brands with the Mag in them.... Sears put them in a lot of there GT's... Just make sure the shaft is the same or use the pre-existing PTO....

ol'George 08-24-2017 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by bfowler88 (Post 430972)
The retrofit kits are out of the question for now, I cant see paying that much for a mower engine. I have seen the magnums online but they are 4-500 plus. Maybe I will get lucky ........



I guess the extra metal would cause more vibration, how did you reduce the noise?

Do post to us here before you possibly purchase another engine as there are a lot of models of mags & series 2 that are different specks, that will not work for one reason or another, crankshaft diameters and lengths are just 2 that come to mind.
Luck with your search. :beerchug:

olds45512 08-24-2017 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by bfowler88 (Post 430972)



I guess the extra metal would cause more vibration, how did you reduce the noise?

I cut fuel tubing and glued it to the grille housing towards the top of the side panel, that was a pretty noticable difference by itself. I also squeezed the hood a bit so it was tighter to the dash, other than that I basically just checked everything over to make sure everything was tight.

drglinski 08-24-2017 01:37 PM

That would be weird....a red one puttering and shaking like a yellow one...


Might be sorta cool. I'd like to see it.


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