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RAC65 11-23-2018 01:23 PM

CH25S MDI tach?
 
So this was really a Simplicity question
(begging forgiveness), but I think there are more folks here than on that forum and the Kohler ch series v-twins are the same either way so I'll pose the question here. I have a ch25s that the original ignition went bad on and of course replacement parts are no longer available and the update to the MDI ignition was required (new flywheel & coil packs). The problem??? NO provision for tach hook-up! Kohler says "sorry, you're out of luck". But I'm thinking there has to be a way. Ideas? The factory dash tach requires a high voltage signal spike (similar to an older tach that would hook to the negative side of a ignition coil)

RLause 11-23-2018 03:15 PM

You might try to wrap the pickup wire 4 or 5 wraps around one of the spark plug wires.

ol'George 11-23-2018 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by RLause (Post 472299)
You might try to wrap the pickup wire 4 or 5 wraps around one of the spark plug wires.

Sure worth a try, I wouldn't thought of that.:bigthink:
Other wise one of those cheap tiny tacks from China will give you RPM's

cooperino 11-23-2018 05:17 PM

If you do that on a twin you will need to multiply the number by 2

ol'George 11-23-2018 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by cooperino (Post 472306)
If you do that on a twin you will need to multiply the number by 2

That is too broad of an assumption.
Some 2 cylinder engines fire both plugs @ the same time.
I.E, a wasted spark design/system.
I can think of several that fire both plugs @ the same time.:bigthink:
You would divide .
Also 2 stroke vs 4 stroke

cooperino 11-23-2018 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ol'George (Post 472307)
That is too broad of an assumption.
Some 2 cylinder engines fire both plugs @ the same time.
I.E, a wasted spark design/system.
I can think of several that fire both plugs @ the same time.:bigthink:
You would divide .
Also 2 stroke vs 4 stroke

You are correct. I should have been more specific. I was really replying more to this specific case in point.unless im mistaken the ch25 is not wasted spark correct?

ol'George 11-23-2018 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by cooperino (Post 472308)
You are correct. I should have been more specific. I was really replying more to this specific case in point.unless im mistaken the ch25 is not wasted spark correct?

coop, I have no idea, I'm old skool, never had my crepey fingers on one.:bigthink:

RLause 11-23-2018 07:49 PM

You are correct. They have 2 coils

Gompers 11-23-2018 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by cooperino (Post 472308)
You are correct. I should have been more specific. I was really replying more to this specific case in point.unless im mistaken the ch25 is not wasted spark correct?

I believe it is wasted spark. I can't think of a Kohler twin that you'll find in a cub that isn't wasted spark.

All of the Magnum and KT engines are. There are two separate coils on a CH, but they both fire every time the flywheel goes past them.

cooperino 11-24-2018 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Gompers (Post 472317)
I believe it is wasted spark. I can't think of a Kohler twin that you'll find in a cub that isn't wasted spark.

All of the Magnum and KT engines are. There are two separate coils on a CH, but they both fire every time the flywheel goes past them.

So... there are 2 coils. They are triggered by the flywheel passing the coil. Theres only one magnet on the ch25 flywheel. The coils arent mounted togerher. So how could they fire at same time ?


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