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Rex B 09-28-2022 04:44 PM

1863 3-pt --> 2084 hydraulics question
 
I am in the process of transferring the PTO from my 1863 parts tractor to my newly motivated 2084. I'm at the point of removing the lift link. I need to align the front pin with the frame hole to pull the pin out. However, there is no engine so I can't use the hydraulics to move it. It is locked in place. Do I need to bleed of system pressure so it will move? If so, where is the best place to do that?

finsruskw 09-28-2022 05:12 PM

Spin the driveshaft with a big drill

Rex B 09-28-2022 09:26 PM

Interesting. I'll try that tomorrow.

EDIT: Looks like it will take a 3/4" chuck to grab that driveshaft. Biggest I have at home is 1/2", but I think I have a bigger spare chuck at the shop, and hopefully a 1/2" arbor to fit it.

Gary C 09-29-2022 10:37 PM

Can you loosen the hoses to the lift cylinder and pry it to where you need it?

Frank1541 09-30-2022 08:49 AM

Just watch out for the hydro fluid that will leak out.

Rex B 09-30-2022 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Gary C (Post 521018)
Can you loosen the hoses to the lift cylinder and pry it to where you need it?

That was my first thought, but I didn't know where best to release the pressure. I don't guess it won't hurt anything if I loose all the fluid.

I'm going to go with the drill method if I can cobble together a big chuck setup. I'll do that today.

Sam Mac 09-30-2022 02:00 PM

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Just hold the raise / lower valve in the direction that you want the cylinder to go and force the cylinder to move by putting a wrench on the shaft circled in red in these pics.

Rex B 09-30-2022 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam Mac (Post 521023)
Just hold the raise / lower valve in the direction that you want the cylinder to go and force the cylinder to move by putting a wrench on the shaft circled in red in these pics.

That makes sense. I tried that early on, but my lack of conviction stopped me before I applied much pressure. I like that better than cracking hoses.

I'll give that a shot tomorrow AM.
If that doesn't work I'll crack the lines.

Thanks for the help!

Rex B 09-30-2022 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Rex B (Post 520999)
Interesting. I'll try that tomorrow.

EDIT: Looks like it will take a 3/4" chuck to grab that driveshaft. Biggest I have at home is 1/2", but I think I have a bigger spare chuck at the shop, and hopefully a 1/2" arbor to fit it.

BTW, the drill method was a good idea, but I could not find a way to spin that shaft. I have a nice big 18N Jacobs 3/4" chuck and a 1/2" arbor to fit it, but I could not remove the 3/4" arbor that was already in it.

Oak 09-30-2022 06:04 PM

Is the end of your input shaft threaded? If it is run a bolt in it, use a jamb nut and use a socket adapter in your drill to spin it CCW.


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