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Wayne 11-05-2022 02:01 PM

2166 starting problem
 
Great, new problem. 2166 won't turn over unless I jump the solenoid. Battery showing 14 volts on my analog meter. But so is the solenoid, even when the key is off. This makes me suspect my assumption

here https://www.onlycubcadets.net/forum/...20&postcount=9


is wrong and I'm creating new problems. I don't know why else I'd be getting voltage at the solenoid when the key is off, but I'm electrically challenged

R Bedell 11-06-2022 06:22 AM

In order for 2166's engine o "roll over", the (A) PTO switch has to be in the "off" position, and (B) the Brake Pedal has to be depressed.

Is that being done ?? :Huh:

Wayne 11-06-2022 08:29 AM

of course.

R Bedell 11-06-2022 08:43 AM

Do you have a DVM or VOM and know how to test or measure voltage ??

:Huh:

ol'George 11-06-2022 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wayne (Post 521825)
Great, new problem. 2166 won't turn over unless I jump the solenoid. Battery showing 14 volts on my analog meter. But so is the solenoid, even when the key is off. This makes me suspect my assumption

here https://www.onlycubcadets.net/forum/...20&postcount=9


is wrong and I'm creating new problems. I don't know why else I'd be getting voltage at the solenoid when the key is off, but I'm electrically challenged

A fully charged battery should read about 12.6 volts after resting at least 12 hours.
By "jumping" just what are you doing?
Are you connecting both large terminals together to make the engine turn over with the starter using a screw driver, pliers or some such conducting device?

A solenoid normally has one lead from the battery + terminal, a large wire that is powered all the time.
When commanded by the key switch or other switch, 12V is applied to the small solenoid terminal, making the solenoid energize and allow that battery power to flow out the other large terminal to the starter, thus attempting to start the engine provided fuel,air and ignition are provided.
------Just a simple explanation
it is advised that caution is exercised as one is circumventing safety devices as well as safety neutral switches.

Wayne 11-06-2022 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R Bedell (Post 521835)
Do you have a DVM or VOM and know how to test or measure voltage ??

:Huh:

Battery showing 14 volts on my analog meter. Post 1.

I mention it is analog be cause i really don't consider it's readings super accurate

Wayne 11-06-2022 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ol'George (Post 521836)
A fully charged battery should read about 12.6 volts after resting at least 12 hours.
By "jumping" just what are you doing?
Are you connecting both large terminals together to make the engine turn over with the starter using a screw driver, pliers or some such conducting device?

A solenoid normally has one lead from the battery + terminal, a large wire that is powered all the time.
When commanded by the key switch or other switch, 12V is applied to the small solenoid terminal, making the solenoid energize and allow that battery power to flow out the other large terminal to the starter, thus attempting to start the engine provided fuel,air and ignition are provided.
------Just a simple explanation
it is advised that caution is exercised as one is circumventing safety devices as well as safety neutral switches.


Jumping = connecting the large solenoid terminals with a conducting device.

Putting a jump starter on the battery does nothing to help it start, just for clarity

R Bedell 11-06-2022 11:00 AM

Quote:

Battery showing 14 volts on my analog meter. Post 1.
Sorry, I was just trying to help. Good luck.

Wayne 11-06-2022 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R Bedell (Post 521842)
Sorry, I was just trying to help. Good luck.

Feel free to help. That's what I came for.

Wayne 11-07-2022 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R Bedell (Post 521842)
Sorry, I was just trying to help. Good luck.


So you're offended now and won't help, because I pointed out that I already provided that information?


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