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weaverama 09-25-2010 02:17 PM

1806? - a few questions
 
Hey, I think I ran across an 1806 at a yard sale today. No decals and I did not have my glasses so I could not read the serial#. Are these pretty hard to find??? I think they are the only cub made with an 18hp and the clutch drive. The guy is asking $600, here is what I know about it.

Sheet metal is straight, paint is in good shape, no significant rust. Engine started up cold with no smoke, no odd noises, and purred at idle and roared at full throttle. The sound of the Kohler 18 is worth the asking price. It has a creeper. It comes with a 42 inch blade and a 44 inch deck that cuts well (I cut his back yard)

I am into tractor pulling and would like to have enough power to pull my boat and do a plow day. I like the clutch drive because of it simplicity. I have an internal brake cast iron rear with a creeper ready to swap in.

Couple of questions.... Is my cast iron rear (out of a 1200) a direct bolt in swap and what do you all think about the $600 asking price?

Any help appreciated. Thanks.

Weaverama

Matt G. 09-25-2010 03:06 PM

The cast rear is a bolt-in, but you'll have to use the 1806 brake linkage if the 1200 rear is external brake. The rears are a slightly different length, so you'll need to make a new driveshaft. You'll probably need to do that anyway as you'll need a stronger clutch spring. The stock one cannot handle 18 hp.

If you're going to be doing pulling and plowing, leave out the creeper. You don't need it and may damage still damage the direct-drive portion of it when it is not being used.

I would never pay $600, but that's just me...I'm fairly cheap. I think 1806s are fairly rare.

ACecil 09-25-2010 10:56 PM

Seems like a good deal to me. Especially since it has the creeper and some attachments with it.

ajgross 09-26-2010 11:45 AM

The creeper on a 1806 was standard equipment. That's what the 6 in 1806 means. 6 speed.

AJ

jbollis 09-26-2010 11:57 AM

I have an 1806. As for the rarity, I don't know how many were made. But mine is the only one I have ever seen in person, and I have only heard of 2 others including yours. The other one was on epay about 2 months ago.

I use mine for my main mower,cart puller,general yard worker. I like it because it is simple. Nothing to break or fail. Just put it in 2nd and mow,nothing to worry about.

The price, The past couple months 82 series parts have been selling real high on epay. And I mean disgustingly high. Rite now it is worth $1000-$1200 parted on epay not counting the blade. I understand thats not what you want to do. I am just putting it into perspective. I would have had my money out before he finished saying $600 if it were me. I would not part it just because I would like to have another one to make into a stock puller.

weaverama 09-26-2010 03:38 PM

Thanks guys,

Matt, thanks for the tips, I might just leave that aluminum rear rear in there and put the spare CI rear and creeper up for sale. It is taking up space and Missy is tired of looking at it. I know the price is steep but you have an incredible ability to ressurect anything, whereas I lack the 3 T's....Time, Tools, and Talent.

ajgross, I never new the "6" meant 6 speed. Good stuff.

jbollis, I would never part a Cub out unless it was absolutely beyond repair. I thnk I saw that 1806 for sale in Pittsburg, it must have sold.

I like the shear brute power of the Kohler 18 and no hydrostatic. I know the gear drives are not the best for pushing snow or plowing but I was just out cutting grass with my 1000. It has an aluminum clutch, 600lb spring, with no teaser. Now that is one tough thing to control around the garden beds! I have a luxury green machine for most of the mowing, the 1806 would be for bragging rights in the neighborhood. "Biggest and Baddest"

I think I am going to offer $450 and see if we can meet in the middle on this 1806. Wish me luck, pics to follow if I get it. Back to you all soon.

Go Skins

Weaverama

Merk 09-26-2010 05:57 PM

My Son is using the diff and axles out of an 1806 in his puller. We had to modify the axle housings on Steve's cast iron rear end because the 1806 axles are bigger in diameter.

weaverama 09-27-2010 01:02 PM

I just thought of this and need to ask.......

With that rear end I mentioned above in the first post, I also have the complete drive shaft and clutch assembly from the same 1200 tractor. If I were to pull the complete drive line out of the 1806 from the engine on back...would the 1200's rear and driveline be a direct bolt-in? Will that driveshaft mate up to the K-18?

It will be a few days to get back and look at this tractor a little more closely;seller is dealing with an ailing mother.

Thanks again for your assistance guys.

Weave

Matt G. 09-27-2010 02:23 PM

No. Like I said before, you will have to make a new driveshaft.

weaverama 09-27-2010 02:26 PM

Thanks Matt.


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