What gear oil in a 104
 

I just bought a 104 with a 3 speed and want to change the gear oil. What should i use and how much should it take. I think i found the drain and fill plugs. The fill is in the rear on the cover plate right?, thanks

Hi Billy!
The product that you are looking for is not really gear oil .I think it is called Hy -Tran . I have a 104 since '72 when I bought it used and I've never changed it the tractor is old enough and that stuff is suppossed to be good enough that I'm almost scared to change it.
If one of the forum cub masters say something else so be it . One repair guy told me not to worry about a change and when you find it and price it you may feel the same it ain't cheap. good luck

garden trac 104

Billy,

All the info you need can be found in the operator manual: http://ccmanuals.info/pdf/1x4-5%20Operator%20Manual.pdf

or the service manual: http://ccmanuals.info/pdf/1x4-5%20Service%20Manual.pdf

Hy-Tran is recommended for gear and hydro drive tractors.

Jeff (teet)

Billy Teet is spot on Hy-Tran. It's not cheap but it worth every penny. Now on to ways on how to save money one buying Hy-Tran (this has been posted many times before) sure you can get it at your local cub dealer or you can take 2-4 gallon container to your local Case, IH dealer ship and see if you can buy it out of their bulk 55 gallon drum. I think you'll find it well worth the savings to buy it out of the drum. Keep in mind if you don't have access to a Case/IH dealership it's still worth the cost from your local cub dealer.

Here's a great thread on Hy-Tran

http://www.onlycubcadets.net/forum/s...hlight=hy-tran

And you ask how to locate your local Case/IH dealership.

http://www.caseih.com/northamerica/P...erLocator.aspx

BillyF:

First, welcome to our Forum........... :Welcome2:

Here is a handy Transmission Lubrication Chart as found in our Technical Library Section to help you out...... Chart

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I forgot about that link Roland thanks for posting it.

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Thanks for all the info, i'm going to stop buy the local dealer and see about it. I have no idea when or if it's ever been changed so i'll just do it.

Lack of oil or changing it, would that cause it tough to put in gear? I have to try a couple times and sometimes it grinds, but then other times it goes right in. Is that normal for a 42 yr old machine?

Hi Billy ! Just got done with a long message to you but somehow It got lost I'll try the same but not like a letter. check this out--
Take a look @ your clutch lever mounting bracket==
take off clutch sheild behind engine(two bolts) remove sheild you can now see the arm and bracket-chk the arm bracket top for tight to the metal close to battery tray - engine OFF SPARK PLUG UN PLUGGED manually work clutch pedal up and down -look @ top of arm and note if the metal the clutch bracket for arm is bending damaged or about to break. this can make clutch adjustment hard and if it breaks you got problems ! this area is about the only place on the tractor with thinner metal -it was something that happened to me and required a little weld action. good luck you have a great tractor .I've had mine for a long time and would'nt givee it up

Billy,

:Welcome2: No, your clutch should not grind the gears. It depends on how your clutch is adjusted......which yours sounds like it needs adjustment. Here is a quick check you can do to determine that......while running your cub, depress the clutch pedal and hold it for a minute or so....at least 30 seconds (count it out), then try to shift into a gear. Chances are that it won't grind. I think your driveshaft is still spinning while you are still trying to shift, even though your clutch pedal is depressed and that is what is causing the grinding sound. You can adjust your clutch braking as described above and as described in your owner's manual to stop the driveshaft faster once you depress the clutch pedal. Hope this helps.

Oh, I would change out my transmission fluid regularly as moisture can sometimes build up and prevent it from performing properly or doing damage. It does cost a little, but really what are your tools/equipment worth to you? Proper/preventative maintenance can save you big $$$ in repair bills!!!:bigthink:

Cub Cadet 123

Hey cub 123! I have a 104 and I have the same kind of clutch adjustment concerns as billy . I had arm bracket pull loose and had to readjust the clutch . how do you adjust the clutch to stop the driveshaft faster . Have you ever needed to replace a release lever as a result of the mounting holes beening too worn. this is going to be part of my winter tractor job .have you ever heard of any one repairing a pin on a drive plate ? or trying to tighten pressure plate roll pin holes that are worn Thanks excuse a butt in -seems all related