yes Alvy, no spring(nor a cone that I can tell) in the charge pump relief valve, but there is one up top in the implement relief valve. It's hard to see in there but I've put a magnet in there and found nothing. I tried a small spring but seems there is no cone. I'm guessing I need both-the charge relief valve must bump up the pressure for the implement lift to have more power. Creep keeps coming back.
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