Let me put it this way, 1864 last of the best GT's, 2284 last of the best Supers. I made a mistake when I sold my 2284 to CAD but I know it's in good hands. After that we got the true MTD stuff. Both the 1864 and 2284 have CH power and the sound is like a Harley. When you put a load on them it is music to the ears. They just grunt and get it done.