[gardenpest]

i don't have one on my cubs yet, just haven't got around to it yet.I have had one in my hand for about 40 years at work 8 hours a day though. Can't imagine not having one on a forklift......as far as being called a suicide knob, one of my fellow workers hit a 10 inch steel post head on one day and put the knob into his chest rupturing his spline.I thought ,that's why they call them a suicide knob.Thank goodness it was a failed suicide attempt.