Only Cub Cadets

PLEASE PATRONIZE OUR SPONSORS!

CC Specialties R. F. Houtz and Sons Jeff in Pa.

P&K Cub Cadet Machtech Direct

Cub Cadet Parts & Service


If you would like to help maintain this site & enhance it, feel free to donate whatever amount you would like to!




Attention Everyone, we have 2 new Sponsors!
Machtech Direct and P&K Cub Cadet (See Links above)


Go Back   Only Cub Cadets > Cub Cadets > Home Made

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 01-03-2024, 01:33 AM
Ambush Ambush is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2020
Location: British Columbia
Posts: 631
Default IH Tiller, More Mods.

I got a 38" A2 tiller with the 149 a few years ago, but no mule drive, belts or corner drive gear box. After pricing out all the stuff, lack of availability and the fact that I already had a new 14 hp motor on hand, I set it up as self powered. And that's been working well. I was having the problem of the bearing carriers coming lose on the tine shaft. So I hatched a plan in my head to put outboard bearings on that shaft. This past week the plan got out of my head and onto the work bench.

Earlier in the summer I had scrapped an old MTD tiller and saved the tine mount shaft, tine hubs and the best tines. Also the shroud which was twelve gauge steel. As rarely happens a lot of that salvaged material lined up perfectly for my project. The shafts and hubs are 1 1/4" just like the IH tiller. Unbelievably and by total fluke even every hole that I thought I'd have to drill was in the right place and right size!!

I'll add pics from my phone of the progress so far. When this part of the project is done, I'll be figuring out a way to mount the tiller to the sleeve hitch so I don't have to remove the hitch and then fight the tillers arms into place. PITA.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 01-03-2024, 01:54 AM
Ambush Ambush is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2020
Location: British Columbia
Posts: 631
Default

To start I had to pull the tine tube off one side so I could tighten the bearing carrier. That went well and I was pretty quick on to actual mods. The MTD shaft was about the perfect length when cut in half with one half for each side. I needed to extend down the tiller side plates and beef them up some. I cut two plates from the MTD shroud of the approximate size. With some measuring and fiddling, I had holes through the new side plates and a bearing location.

I decided to put skids on the side plates too. A large propane tank was the donor for them.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG_0565.jpg (37.0 KB, 217 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_0568.jpg (38.1 KB, 217 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_0570.jpg (37.2 KB, 216 views)
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 01-03-2024, 02:04 AM
Ambush Ambush is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2020
Location: British Columbia
Posts: 631
Default

Here I’ve got the semi finished side plates on and bearings located. I’m going to put one of the MTD hubs on each end with tines and that will extend the tiller just over two inches total for a full 40 1/2” tilling width. My ag tires are 38” outside to outside. Everybody g lines up great!
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG_0567.jpg (34.9 KB, 215 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_0577.jpg (34.3 KB, 213 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_0576.jpg (37.5 KB, 215 views)
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 01-05-2024, 12:18 AM
Ambush Ambush is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2020
Location: British Columbia
Posts: 631
Default

Pretty much got done with this portion of mods. Everything lined up good. I had to put some bend in the donor tines to get them as close to the side plates as possible and I did gain over an inch on each end.

Next step is to put the tractor in the shop and come up with an efficient way to mount the tiller to the back. I go back and forth about building a Cat 0 or 1 three point and maybe that will come out of this venture too.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG_0593.jpg (36.4 KB, 187 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_0589.jpg (39.4 KB, 189 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_0591.jpg (38.4 KB, 186 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_0595.jpg (37.9 KB, 188 views)
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 01-05-2024, 06:16 PM
Ambush Ambush is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2020
Location: British Columbia
Posts: 631
Default

Time to re-mate the tiller to the tractor. The bottom draw yoke on the tiller is the same width as the sleeve hitch mount because it was originally designed to mount there. It looks like it will be pretty easy to engineer a fast and easy mounting system. One where I don’t have to grub around the ground, tugging and pushing on the tractor and tiller to get two small pins into holes that I can’t see. Probably much like you see in the pics.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg image.jpg (29.6 KB, 176 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_0598.jpg (40.0 KB, 178 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_0597.jpg (33.1 KB, 176 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_0596.jpg (38.8 KB, 178 views)
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 01-05-2024, 08:44 PM
Sam Mac's Avatar
Sam Mac Sam Mac is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Galax VA
Posts: 18,814
Default

Nice job. Do you think it may be to heavy for the lift? The self powered Cub 400 tiller had a trailing wheel and only lifted the front.
__________________
2264 with 54 GT deck
1641 AKA Black Jack with a 402-E Haban Sickle bar mower
JD317 dump truck
BX2670 with FEL
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 01-06-2024, 02:23 AM
Ambush Ambush is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2020
Location: British Columbia
Posts: 631
Default

Its been lifting it no problem for the last three years. I put a 2" hydraulic cylinder on the rear to replace the original lift cylinder and link. I may put a pair of depth limit tires out the back. On new, rough ground, when the rear tires drop into a hole or sharp dip then the tiller drops and digs hard and deep. But the skid shoes should limit that somewhat, so I'll wait to see.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 01-07-2024, 10:28 PM
Ambush Ambush is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2020
Location: British Columbia
Posts: 631
Default

I got the tiller yoke mated to the sleeve hitch and I’m happy with the geometry. Now I can figure out the top link and how to attach it to the tiller.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG_0607.jpg (38.9 KB, 153 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_0632.jpg (34.0 KB, 153 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_0633.jpg (37.8 KB, 153 views)
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 01-08-2024, 10:06 PM
Ambush Ambush is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2020
Location: British Columbia
Posts: 631
Default

I had a turnbuckle laying around so I used that as the top link for now. The bearing bolsters are welded on so that’s about it for the tiller part of the winter project. I’ll have to wait till spring to try everything it out for proper function , before get carried away with paint.

I ordered a three spool valve to mount on the left side of the tractor to have options for future attachments. And once I have options, I’ll think of things to use them for.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG_0640.jpg (39.4 KB, 144 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_0638.jpg (32.6 KB, 144 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_0641.jpg (31.8 KB, 144 views)
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 06-05-2024, 06:14 AM
1811woody's Avatar
1811woody 1811woody is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: IL
Posts: 701
Default

Looks like a pretty big project, hows it working out for you? What sleeve hitch did you use?
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:01 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.

Cub Cadet is a premium line of outdoor power equipment, established in 1961 as part of International Harvester. During the 1960s, IH initiated an entirely new line of lawn and garden equipment aimed at the owners rural homes with large yards and private gardens. There were a wide variety of Cub Cadet branded and after-market attachments available; including mowers, blades, snow blowers, front loaders, plows, carts, etc. Cub Cadet advertising at that time harped on their thorough testing by "boys - acknowledged by many as the world's worst destructive force!". Cub Cadets became known for their dependability and rugged construction.

MTD Products, Inc. of Cleveland, Ohio purchased the Cub Cadet brand from International Harvester in 1981. Cub Cadet was held as a wholly owned subsidiary for many years following this acquisition, which allowed them to operate independently. Recently, MTD has taken a more aggressive role and integrated Cub Cadet into its other lines of power equipment.

This website and forum are not affiliated with or sponsored by MTD Products Inc, which owns the CUB CADET trademarks. It is not an official MTD Products Inc, website, and MTD Products Inc, is not responsible for any of its content. The official MTD Products Inc, website can be found at: http://www.mtdproducts.com. The information and opinions expressed on this website are the responsibility of the website's owner and/or it's members, and do not represent the opinions of MTD Products Inc. IH, INTERNATIONAL HARVESTER are registered trademark of CNH America LLC

All material, images, and graphics from this site are the property of www.onlycubcadets.net. Any unauthorized use, reproductions, or duplications are prohibited unless solely expressed in writing.

Cub Cadet, Cub, Cadet, IH, MTD, Parts, Tractors, Tractor, International Harvester, Lawn, Garden, Lawn Mower, Kohler, garden tractor equipment, lawn garden tractors, antique garden tractors, garden tractor, PTO, parts, online, Original, 70, 71, 72, 73, 76, SO76, 80, 81, 86, 100, 102, 104, 105, 106, 107, 108,109, 122, 123, 124, 125, 126, 127, 128, 129, 147, 149, 169, 182, 282, 382, 482, 580, 582, 582 Special, 680, 682, 782, 782D, 784, 800, 805, 882, 982, 984, 986, 1000, 1015, 1100, 1105, 1110, 1200, 1250, 1282, 1450, 1512, 1604, 1605, 1606, 1610, 1615, 1620, 1650, 1710, 1711, 1712, 1806, 1810, 1811, 1812, 1912, 1914.