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Old 04-21-2012, 12:16 PM
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I've been reading on here for a while, and I'm sure this has been ask before, but, can anyone explain the difference between a "garden tractor" and a "lawn tractor"? And, when you get into the numbering system of the cub cadets,(like 107 and 108 or say, 1862 and 1864) what could be the difference (except maybe the year)?
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Old 04-21-2012, 12:26 PM
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can anyone explain the difference between a "garden tractor" and a "lawn tractor"?
It comes down to the frame of the tractor.

LT are light framed tractors mainly designed for lawn mowing and pulling light duty implements, ie: carts or lawn sweeper.

GT are sturdy framed tractors capable of handling ground engaging equipment, ie: cultivators, plows, tillers, and snowthrowers. Capable of pulling heavier loads.
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Of all the answers I could have expected, that one makes the most sense. I really appreciate it. I guess my 1862 and my 1050 are lawn tractors and my 108 is a garden tractor. Would my "Original" be a GT or a LT?
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Of all the answers I could have expected, that one makes the most sense. I really appreciate it. I guess my 1862 and my 1050 are lawn tractors and my 108 is a garden tractor. Would my "Original" be a GT or a LT?
The 1862 is an GT 1050 LT and O is an GT.
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the 'O' is widely regarded as one of the 1st mass produced garden tractors by a major corporation. It (along with all other IH GTs) has the transmission from a true farm tractor, the Farmall Cub.
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the 'O' is widely regarded as one of the 1st mass produced garden tractors by a major corporation. It (along with all other IH GTs) has the transmission from a true farm tractor, the Farmall Cub.
This is a little bit of information that I had never heard before. Thanks for the input.

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Your 1050 might be a GT also. In 1989 the 1050 was made with a 10HP Kohler Magnum and gear drive transmission.
The later 1050 was a LT1050 which is a lawn tractor. Which one do you have?
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This is a little bit of information that I had never heard before. Thanks for the input.

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ya, when IH decided to produce a GT they discovered instead of creating an entirely new transmission and such they just used what they already had available, saved millions in re-tooling, re-engineering... and created the most over-engineered GT ever produced at the time. Still today the IH Cub rear end is favored by most GT pullers regardless of how their tractor is "painted".

Check out Ken Updike's books on the history of Cub Cadet.
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ya, when IH decided to produce a GT they discovered instead of creating an entirely new transmission and such they just used what they already had available, saved millions in re-tooling, re-engineering... and created the most over-engineered GT ever produced at the time. Still today the IH Cub rear end is favored by most GT pullers regardless of how their tractor is "painted".

Check out Ken Updike's books on the history of Cub Cadet.
Yeah, I would really like to look that book over. I really like my cubs even though 2 are down right now (1050 has clutch vibration, and just blew the 1862 engine, pretty sure the governor gear came apart and knocked a whole in the case). Which don't give me time to restore the "O". I'll try to get pics later. Thanks for the interest.
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Your 1050 might be a GT also. In 1989 the 1050 was made with a 10HP Kohler Magnum and gear drive transmission.
The later 1050 was a LT1050 which is a lawn tractor. Which one do you have?
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By those parameters I'm pretty sure it is a GT. I've seen the LT1050's and mine looks older and it has the Kohler 10hp engine.
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