|
PLEASE PATRONIZE OUR SPONSORS!
|
|||||||
 |
|
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
|
#1
06-01-2012, 05:29 AM
|
|||
|
|||
1971 149 Moving Forward
I am fuzzy on the details but what I remember (8 years ago) is I had a friend of a friend work on the K321 for the 149. It was smoking alot and just not running right. I believe he did rings and some other stuff. When I got it back it ran about 15 min. overheated and seized to a stop. After it cooled it started right up and repeated the seize to a stop. For some reason I did not confront the friend of a friend. I know its hard to understand my logic but I was frustrated. I pulled it into the woods and picked up the 2160 I currently use. Thanks to all your encouraging words I am ready to move forward. I found a manual. I've been searching the threads. I pulled the head the other night and things look promising. Someone told me its possible the rings are wrong? I believe my next step would be to pull the engine and have a small engine shop check it out. I am willing to listen and learn from you all.
|
|
#2
06-01-2012, 11:20 PM
|
||||
|
||||
|
Glad you pulled the 149 out of the woods and gave it a second chance.It seems like to me the rings are getting hot and expands and becomes pressdled in the cylinder from the rings being oversized and after it cools down it shrinks and frees itself .I could be wrong but I think that may be the problem. And I see you have a rats nest behind the engine shroud so that needs to be got out of their to help cool the engine. So good luck on your adventure.
 Jed
__________________
Jed Proud to be a FFA member Westmoreland,TN Chapter 1978 Cub cadet 1450 IH Hubcaps 1975 1650SGT Work In Progress 1974 cub cadet 129 with sleeve hitch/spring assist 1974 108 (Mint) #510358 brinly 12 in plow,disc,8 in plow ,2 42, 2 44A ,50A DECKS #40 boxblade,can`t keep up with the rest lol    
|
|
#3
06-02-2012, 10:50 AM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Renewed
Thanks, Just joining everyone in this forum has been an adventure. Learning as I go. I pulled the motor last night and waiting for my next window of time to take a close look at the piston and rings. I have not tried to start it yet so I don't know how long the critters have been liven in there. Following the threads has been humbling after 1 I read I ran back out and started tagging all my bolts and making notes. On a side note I have not been able to find the Model and serial #s on my 2160, thought they would be under the seat. Any Idea's?
|
|
#4
06-02-2012, 11:26 AM
|
||||
|
||||
|
It could be the ring gap.
When the rings are in the cylinder, they form an almost complete circle. There is a small gap keeping them from being a full circle. As the engine comes up to running temp, the rings expand from the heat. As they expand, that gap closes. If it closes all the way, and the ends of the rings butt up against each other, there is no room left for expansion. The rings become forced against the cylinder wall, and cause the piston to stop. On high performane engines this can cause catastrophic engine failure, because the piston is moving too fast to stop, and the top off the piston will get ripped off.
|
|
#5
06-02-2012, 12:11 PM
|
||||
|
||||
|
Quote:
It should be on the frame on the left side as you sit on the tractor. Circled in red in the attached pic. My Dad was in the Seebee's during WW2.
__________________
2264 with 54 GT deck 1641 AKA Black Jack with a 402-E Haban Sickle bar mower JD317 dump truck BX2670 with FEL
|
|
#6
06-02-2012, 04:23 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Yes
Right on with the nameplate location. I retired from the Navy Reserves in 2007. 17 of my 24 years I was a Seabee and I loved every minute of it. Say Hi to your Dad.
The ring senario fits very well, I remember it happened the first time I started it when I got it back. The person who did the rings might have only run it 10 min. I just gave up assuming the motor was bad. I found a motor shop and they said I should be able to check the ring gap myself. Might not happen this weekend. but I will keep an eye on OCC. Glenn
|
|
#7
06-02-2012, 07:28 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Speaking of Nests
Hey Jed,
I figured I better clean that nest out before I pulled the oil pan and WOW!!! it was worse than I thought, Flywheel is jamed with rust. Glenn
|
|
#8
06-03-2012, 12:38 AM
|
||||
|
||||
|
Man that was a full nest
 Glad to see you got it cleaned out. PS. Did you find any live critters in that nest. 
__________________
Jed Proud to be a FFA member Westmoreland,TN Chapter 1978 Cub cadet 1450 IH Hubcaps 1975 1650SGT Work In Progress 1974 cub cadet 129 with sleeve hitch/spring assist 1974 108 (Mint) #510358 brinly 12 in plow,disc,8 in plow ,2 42, 2 44A ,50A DECKS #40 boxblade,can`t keep up with the rest lol
|
|
#9
06-04-2012, 05:48 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Quote:
|
|
#10
06-13-2012, 09:10 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Piston removed
Well I have been away for work, But I pulled the piston tonight. I am not sure if I am looking at the right gap in the manual for the rings. Need help .006 can' be it can it? Anyway there seems to be alot of rubbing on this side of the piston. Also top 1/2 inch of cylinder wall is ruff on the valve side. I would like to find someone to mic it (if thats the right term. I welcome your advice in advance.
 Glenn
|
|
|
|
Cub Cadet is a premium line of outdoor power equipment, established in 1961 as part of International Harvester. During the 1960s, IH initiated an entirely new line of lawn and garden equipment aimed at the owners rural homes with large yards and private gardens. There were a wide variety of Cub Cadet branded and after-market attachments available; including mowers, blades, snow blowers, front loaders, plows, carts, etc. Cub Cadet advertising at that time harped on their thorough testing by "boys - acknowledged by many as the world's worst destructive force!". Cub Cadets became known for their dependability and rugged construction.
MTD Products, Inc. of Cleveland, Ohio purchased the Cub Cadet brand from International Harvester in 1981. Cub Cadet was held as a wholly owned subsidiary for many years following this acquisition, which allowed them to operate independently. Recently, MTD has taken a more aggressive role and integrated Cub Cadet into its other lines of power equipment.
This website and forum are not affiliated with or sponsored by MTD Products Inc, which owns the CUB CADET trademarks. It is not an official MTD Products Inc, website, and MTD Products Inc, is not responsible for any of its content. The official MTD Products Inc, website can be found at: http://www.mtdproducts.com. The information and opinions expressed on this website are the responsibility of the website's owner and/or it's members, and do not represent the opinions of MTD Products Inc. IH, INTERNATIONAL HARVESTER are registered trademark of CNH America LLC
All material, images, and graphics from this site are the property of www.onlycubcadets.net. Any unauthorized use, reproductions, or duplications are prohibited unless solely expressed in writing.
Cub Cadet, Cub, Cadet, IH, MTD, Parts, Tractors, Tractor, International Harvester, Lawn, Garden, Lawn Mower, Kohler, garden tractor equipment, lawn garden tractors, antique garden tractors, garden tractor, PTO, parts, online, Original, 70, 71, 72, 73, 76, SO76, 80, 81, 86, 100, 102, 104, 105, 106, 107, 108,109, 122, 123, 124, 125, 126, 127, 128, 129, 147, 149, 169, 182, 282, 382, 482, 580, 582, 582 Special, 680, 682, 782, 782D, 784, 800, 805, 882, 982, 984, 986, 1000, 1015, 1100, 1105, 1110, 1200, 1250, 1282, 1450, 1512, 1604, 1605, 1606, 1610, 1615, 1620, 1650, 1710, 1711, 1712, 1806, 1810, 1811, 1812, 1912, 1914.
Linear Mode
