Creeper shifter change out

[johncub7172]

Been reading up lately, and here on the forum. I had recently be came educated in the differences between a creeper that came from a IH wide frame gear drive garden tractor and that of a IH narrow frame gear drive garden tractor.

My problem is that I have a wide frame creeper going into a narrow frame garden tractor. With out taking and rebuilding the whole creeper unit, How hard is it to change from a wide frame creeper handle to a narrow frame creeper handle??

Any pictures, advice, tips or know-how is welcome!


I'm surprised this is not a common question,..........

[Maxwelhse]

Uhhh.. Any skilled tradesman will make you any shifter that you want for under $100..... What's the real issue?

[TommyK]

John, I think you have to pull the input shaft out to get the shifter collar out, which would allow you to drive the roll pin out of the shift yoke and lever shaft. Then you'd drive the pin out of the lever shaft and the shift poppet. Then the lever(handle) should come out. To pull the input shaft you remove the large snap ring holding the input shaft bearing cage in the housing. Looking at the 1X8/9 service manual, page 2-74, you'd do steps 1,2, 9,10, 11, and 12. It's not a complete dissassembly, but pretty close.

[johncub7172]

Originally Posted by Maxwelhse

Uhhh.. Any skilled tradesman will make you any shifter that you want for under $100..... What's the real issue?

On a creeper that came from a wide frame, the shift handle is longer both horizontal and vertical. { think a plain old 2 foot framing square, or 90* angle }

[johncub7172]

Originally Posted by TommyK

John, I think you have to pull the input shaft out to get the shifter collar out, which would allow you to drive the roll pin out of the shift yoke and lever shaft. Then you'd drive the pin out of the lever shaft and the shift poppet. Then the lever(handle) should come out. To pull the input shaft you remove the large snap ring holding the input shaft bearing cage in the housing. Looking at the 1X8/9 service manual, page 2-74, you'd do steps 1,2, 9,10, 11, and 12. It's not a complete dissassembly, but pretty close.

I was hoping to remove the shifting lever, and replace with correct handle. Looks like some research is in order. Not sure I want to pay 45 big bucks for a simple 90* bolt. Guess then I will know what all the replacement requires. I was looking for a picture how-to on the forum, but don't see one,....................................

[TommyK]

Originally Posted by johncub7172

I was hoping to remove the shifting lever, and replace with correct handle. Looks like some research is in order. Not sure I want to pay 45 big bucks for a simple 90* bolt. Guess then I will know what all the replacement requires. I was looking for a picture how-to on the forum, but don't see one,....................................

If you have a snap ring tool and roll pin punches, it'd be easy to switch levers. But you'd have to put up the $$ for the correct lever. The service manual has 2 diagrams of the creeper, but just a write up on how to disassemble and reassemble. It's pretty simple though. You may be able to bend the WF lever to fit your NF?

[sawdustdad]

We should have swapped creeper gears. I just bent and extended the handle on my NF creeper to fit my WF build.